Unfreeze vs. Thaw synth

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2011/03/28 11:46:10 (permalink)

Unfreeze vs. Thaw synth

What's the difference?
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    Re:Unfreeze vs. Thaw synth 2011/03/28 12:21:07 (permalink)
    I believe a thawed synth can be immediately refrozen without having to process it again. Kind of like hitting undo and redo.

    An unfrozen synth has to be processed again to be frozen (as if it had never been frozen before.)

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    Re:Unfreeze vs. Thaw synth 2011/03/28 14:07:00 (permalink)
    Funny. I never knew there is a difference. The weak spot in Tunekickers explanation is that you usually thaw a synth to be able to edit it, and after editing it has to be processed anyway to re-freeze it.

    OK. After a short survey in the help files I believe I got it. It's not said directly anywhere, but reading between the lines, tjhis is my intepretation:

    Freeze/unfreeze means  freezing a track or a synth. The following is a  quote

    "Unfreeze Track. Discards the bounced audio, restores the original audio to the way it was before the last Freeze or Quick Freeze command, and enables the FX bin."


    If it restores original audio, it's not soft synth we're talking about, but a FX in the FX bin of an audio track, because a soft synth track combination does not include audio, whereas "Thaw" command is only found in connection to soft synths.

    Quote: "Each synth also has its own Freeze and thaw
    buttons at the end "

    Quick Freeze/Quick Unfreeze can be toggled back and forth and it retains the audio intact.

    So: No difference between freeze/thaw, but Quick Freeze/Quick Unfreeze is a different thing.
    post edited by Kalle Rantaaho - 2011/03/28 14:08:36

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    Re:Unfreeze vs. Thaw synth 2011/03/28 14:14:33 (permalink)
    That's what I get for responding with my best memory instead of being at my DAW. Quick Freeze/Unfreeze was the feature I was picturing. Thanks for setting me straight Kalle.

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    Re:Unfreeze vs. Thaw synth 2011/03/28 15:50:07 (permalink)
    Well, as said, that was only my interpretation. I can't swear I've understood it correctly :o/
    It's not clearly stated anywhere, and I'm pretty good at misunderstanding....

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    Re:Unfreeze vs. Thaw synth 2011/03/28 19:00:46 (permalink)
    The terms are interchangeable, but...

    "Unfreeze" is clearly preferable because it more clearly describes what's taking place, namely un-doing a previous freeze operation, hence "un-freeze". When a bank account has been frozen, you can call and ask to have it un-frozen. You wouldn't ask them to thaw it. "Thaw" sounds more like when you get a steak out of the freezer for supper. Here's one vote for banishing "thaw" as a synonym for unfreezing.


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    Re:Unfreeze vs. Thaw synth 2011/03/29 03:02:08 (permalink)
    I like "thawing", if not for other purposes but to teach english to other non-english forumites :o)

    Is opening ones eyes "un-closing" them, is erasing a .wav "un-recording" :o).

    But yeah...I do see the point.

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    Re:Unfreeze vs. Thaw synth 2011/03/29 12:41:31 (permalink)
    I unclosed my eyes just this morning. Tomorrow, assuming all goes well during the night, I plan to unclose them once again.

    "Un-recording", however, would imply a return to an unrecorded state and erasing a file technically does not do that. The disk space is merely marked as unused and made available for subsequent re-use. The disk drive is not physically returned to its previous state.

    I love the English language, but I'm sure glad I didn't have to learn it as a second language. I wouldn't want to teach it, either, and have to explain why you park on a driveway and drive on a parkway.



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