Zo
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Zo VS X1 : day one !!
Afternoon of use X1 B , rock solid studio daw 7 32bits , VS 700 : 1) Random crash after closing sonar : error message , bla bla bla 2) Rack synth : all my (hundreds) of selfmade icons (96*96) are truncated !!! while displayed correctlly in the tracks view and console 3) Plugins in the browser are, not matter how many time i collapse all the folder , displayed with all folders extended every time i go back to that view ( fx, instruments ect *....) basically if collapse everything , go to anotha view then go back : everything expended !! 4) Is it possible to have a dock up and on down ? if yes how ? 5)I was aware that the colors customistaion was poor (as i tested it from the beta release) but now , nothing , i mean ok tracks names , not even the background of track names and all , one effort please cause the differnces between for exemple buses and tracks on the consoles view is just ridiculous ! 6) Do you guyz really think that some options to clear the interface are as quick to access as it was : console view : option to display bus tracks , outputs ? 3 buttons , is that difficlut to introduce ? this is one exemple but i can give douzens !! 7) Performance : am i the only guyz that want disk streaming performances not the space it remains !!! 8) Pro Channel : after 4 months the only things is that we can minimized the eq ?!!!!is it dificlut to and a small button on each module to show or hide/collapse this module or do we have to get crazy back and forth between menus !!!! 1600*900 laptop for exemple , i want to use the compresseur , go to menu , minimise the eq , use the comp , ho let's make an eq too , go back to the menu , uncollpase the eq , here we go again .... 9) No (still) mouse scroll support for pro channel ......so last decade !!! 10) Good channel strip implentation for vs 700 11) crash when hitting the synth rack button on the vs 700 (random) ok i stop here for now , and i don't even start making music , just importing prestes, customizing , ect .... Hope if i have to unistall it , it will not break 8.5 ....
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benstat
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Re:Zo VS X1 : day one !!
2011/03/29 14:11:25
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Zo Plugins in the browser are, not matter how many time i collapse all the folder , displayed with all folders extended every time i go back to that view ( fx, instruments ect *....) basically if collapse everything , go to anotha view then go back : everything expended ! Your'e not using SONAR Plus are you? That automatically expands all the plugin folders for you. You can turn it off in Preferences.
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Zo
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Re:Zo VS X1 : day one !!
2011/03/29 17:14:08
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Didn't find it my friend ...sonar X1 producer here .....nothing in preferences ...
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Re:Zo VS X1 : day one !!
2011/03/29 17:21:46
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Zo Didn't find it my friend ...sonar X1 producer here .....nothing in preferences ... Zo, that's actually a statement, not a question. You're not using "Sonar Plus"........ are you? benstat created a program called Sonar Plus, it is a floating toolbar and other sonar x1 enhancements, including expanding all the plugin folders in the browser. and the preferences he's talking about is in Sonar Plus preferences. click on his banner in his signature for a link to "Sonar Plus"
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Zo
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Re:Zo VS X1 : day one !!
2011/03/29 17:26:28
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12) act mapping on vs 700 works for insert in the tracks fx bin , no mapping when plugins inserted on the fx bin of a clip
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benstat
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Re:Zo VS X1 : day one !!
2011/03/29 17:27:14
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Zo Didn't find it my friend ...sonar X1 producer here .....nothing in preferences ... Sorry, I should have been clearer. If you're using SONAR Plus (click the link in my sig for more info), then it has an option to expand all Browser plugin folders for you. The preferences I was referring to are the SONAR Plus preferences, not the normal SONAR X1 preferences. SONAR Plus preferences are accessed via the 2nd button from the right on the SONAR Plus toolbar. The setting is in the 'Browser' tab, and is called 'Expand all Browser folders on startup'. However, from your reply I'm guessing you don't have SONAR Plus installed, in which case please ignore this and sorry for the false alarm!
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Zo
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Re:Zo VS X1 : day one !!
2011/03/29 17:36:44
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Is there a way without sonar + ? Is sonar + stable , glitch free ...ect ...i mean ...you know ;)
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Re:Zo VS X1 : day one !!
2011/03/29 17:51:44
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Ben , taken from your link (witch is great since last time i cheked you did a seriously good job man !!)) Expand all Browser plug-in folders with one click SONAR automatically collapses all Browser plug-in folders when switching between Browser tabs or plug-in types (instruments and effects). SONAR Plus allows you to quickly expand all plug-in folders, instead of having to manually expand them all individually. This is a useful way to quickly see all of your plug-in instruments or effects at once. This is exactly the opposite i want cause X1 B expende all by default !!
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Re:Zo VS X1 : day one !!
2011/03/29 18:01:46
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Zo Ben , taken from your link (witch is great since last time i cheked you did a seriously good job man !!)) Expand all Browser plug-in folders with one click SONAR automatically collapses all Browser plug-in folders when switching between Browser tabs or plug-in types (instruments and effects). SONAR Plus allows you to quickly expand all plug-in folders, instead of having to manually expand them all individually. This is a useful way to quickly see all of your plug-in instruments or effects at once. This is exactly the opposite i want cause X1 B expende all by default !! Weird! That's not the behaviour I'm seeing, and it's the reason why I added that feature to Plus in the first place! I find, with X1b and earlier versions, that the Browser collapses all plugin folders when switching between effects and synths etc. Not sure what's going on there Zo!
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Zo
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Re:Zo VS X1 : day one !!
2011/03/29 18:03:07
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please somebody on the folder issue or i throw by the windows this thing .... By the way still having that close random crashes .... On the good side : audio engine 15% (to 20) more cpu friendly ...surprising but just testing it right now : 8.5 project : 37 % cpu X1 : 32/29 % cpu
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Re:Zo VS X1 : day one !!
2011/03/29 18:06:28
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Code exception of the crash : C0000374 Module by default : Stackhash_31ef ect.....everytime i close a x1 project no matter latency i work and how heavy the project is ....
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Re:Zo VS X1 : day one !!
2011/03/29 18:08:02
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7) Performance : am i the only guyz that want disk streaming performances not the space it remains !!! +1 I know I have gigs of hardrive space left, and that's easy to check. How close I'm coming to having my HD slow down my audio steaming (or samples) would be far better. So if implemnting this please do it for each HD that is getting streamed from.
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Zo
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Re:Zo VS X1 : day one !!
2011/03/29 18:12:43
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Yep .... I remeber i did a stress test on my laptop playing 600 tracks at 512 sample with a fireface .....and it was possible cause fiirst the laptop was crying because the disk streaming but i just saw that and hit the save button for sonar to put everything on memeory and then smoothness ;) Look at the hd meters ...in X1 i wouldn't have found this and just said to my self : laptop not enoutgh powerfull ////
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Re:Zo VS X1 : day one !!
2011/03/29 18:45:17
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13) track view : impossible to interlvealed a track to mono / stereo if the inspector is not opened !!! wtf !!
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Re:Zo VS X1 : day one !!
2011/03/29 18:58:01
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Can somebody tell me if everytime he switches from fx to instrument sto what ever , the plugins layout (even customized) is shoing everything expended ????
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Re:Zo VS X1 : day one !!
2011/03/30 16:26:34
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Correction : done a project today : 3 crashs ....cpu load bigger than in sonar 8.5 ....so heavy testing coming again ....seems to depend on how the project is ....sometime X1 is lower sometime S8.5 wins ...same kind of view and thing displayed on the screen to not biase the test ...
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Re:Zo VS X1 : day one !!
2011/04/02 10:58:14
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Ok guyz , for the folders thing , i would appreciate if somebody can check this out : What i understand when everybody is trying it at home is that most of you have plugin layout with folders and then plugins , for my self i have folders and sub folders mixed with plugins , and it seems that X1 want to display all folders so it expend everything to make me see tose folders ...* Can somebody reproduce it , before i make a tiket ...
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Re:Zo VS X1 : day one !!
2011/04/02 11:46:09
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Ok i just tested it and when i have no subfolder , everything is compact : So for those who want expension , just create an empty sub folder in the folder and you will have all the fallowing plugins displayed .... We should have the choice of compact or extended , for exemple i have SSL folders (duende) and then 2 sub folders named Stereo and mono and the lmc1 so the ssl folders is expended by default
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Re:Zo VS X1 : day one !!
2011/04/02 11:48:00
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So far , i really think that sonar and the bakers have made abig step up ...some stuff are weird but the otherwhole is a very professional , user friendly enjoyable workspace .....
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