konradh
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Basic, Basic Question
V-Studio with Sonar X1 - MOTU 5x5 MIDI Interface. MIDI sound modules conneted to MOTU via MIDI and connected to V-Studio audio interface. MIDI sequence runs, but I can't hear anything from MIDI modules. Faders (on screen and on V-Studio) are all up. MIDI ports set correctly in Track Inspector. Speakers connected and monitor level turned up—I can hear audio loops in Sonar, but not MIDI instruments. Also cannot hear virtual instruments. There must be some simple set-up I need to change. What am I missing? Thanks.
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Beagle
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Re:Basic, Basic Question
2011/03/30 11:56:04
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what do you have your MIDI track outputs set to? are you trying to use the roland synth output? are you trying to use softsynths? MIDI is only data, it has to have an output to trigger sounds, so you have to have your MIDI tracks outputs set to either a softsynth or a hardware synth.
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konradh
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Re:Basic, Basic Question
2011/03/30 12:15:07
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The MIDI tracks in question are set to output to the ports and channels correct for the hardware synths. I am wondering if there is something basic in the audio interface or Sonar X1 global settings that is wrong. Running the sequence makes no sound. When I bang ont he keyboard, I see MIDI lights flashing but don't hear anything.
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Beagle
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Re:Basic, Basic Question
2011/03/30 12:28:12
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then likely your synths are not set up to correctly receive those channels. if you have each MIDI track set to your V-studio MIDI port (and then that goes out to the MOTU for distribution) then each synth has to be set to receive only the channel it's supposed to receive. if that's not the case, then I would suggest that you do troubleshooting by process of elimnation. remove the MOTU and run a MIDI cable from the VS to ONE synth. make sure that works, try another synth, make sure that works, then after you've gotten all of your synths working, add the MOTU back in. if it stops working then, then there's a problem with the MOTU. is this MOTU unit MIDI only or does it have a USB port as well?
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konradh
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Re:Basic, Basic Question
2011/03/30 13:24:02
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Hey Beagle, thanks. Actually, I have been using MIDI since there was such a thing and was using Sonar 2.2 to sequence MIDI and run RealGuitar/RealStrat before I moved off an external recorder to X1/V-Studio. Struggling to figure out if there is some global MIDI set up incorrect in Sonar or if it is something to do with the inputs in the interface. I will mess around some more and see what i can figure out. By the way, I am a Ft Worth person also.
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Beagle
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Re:Basic, Basic Question
2011/03/30 15:01:25
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your title says "Basic, Basic question" for something like that with no more information I have to assume a minimal knowledge of MIDI and sonar. sorry. have you ever gotten this set up to work or is this the first time you've tried to use the MOTU and hardware synths at the same time? there's not a "global MIDI setup" which would cause this that I'm aware of. what part of Ft. Worth?
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konradh
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Re:Basic, Basic Question
2011/04/04 09:55:42
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I am having some technical issues with the set-up of Sonar, V-Studio, and plug-ins—it was all preinstalled by Sweetwater on a "Creation Station" 64-bit machine—but I think the issue in this case is a knowledge gap for me. Left and right outputs of a MIDI sampler (Kurzweil) plugged into inputs 3-4 of the V-Studio (1/4" phone plugs). In Sonar I created an audio track and for input selected V-Studio Stereo 3-4, but still hear no sound. I am sure I will feel quite stupid when I understand what I am missing here. By the way, no issue getting plug-ins (e.g. Fab Four, Ivory II, Vienna) to play as simple instrument tracks, so it is the audio input I am struggling with. Thanks
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Re:Basic, Basic Question
2011/04/04 10:20:18
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In Sonar I created an audio track and for input selected V-Studio Stereo 3-4, but still hear no sound. That was the first key. The second is to enable Input Monitoring/Echo - (looks like ))) - on the audio track so that the incoming audio is echoed back to the output and on to your monitors. Or enable direct monitoring on the V-Studio (not familiar with it, so can't advise, but it should have that capability, either in software, or by a physical switch). Input monitoring is generally preferred because it allows you to monitor with plug-in FX in SONAR.
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konradh
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Re:Basic, Basic Question
2011/04/04 11:42:09
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Thanks for your patience and help on this. I will check it out as soon as I am in front of the console this afternoon.
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konradh
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Re:Basic, Basic Question
2011/04/04 21:53:21
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Still not able to hear anything through the VS-700R interface. I can hear virtual instruments (e.g., Fab Four, Vienna) but cannot hear any MIDI controlled sampler. - Track 9 is a Kurzweil PC2R MIDI Track. I see MIDI signal happening on the track.
- Kurzweil stereo outputs are plugged into inputs 3 and 4 on the back of the VS-700R.
- Track 37 is an audio track. Input says "Stereo VS-700 IN 3-4"
- Output says "Output To Stereo VS-700 MAIN." Input Echo is ON.
- Nothing is muted or soloed.
Why can't I hear this track? Note: I can hear virtual instruments assigned to Simple Instrument Track.
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Re:Basic, Basic Question
2011/04/05 00:34:56
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Track 9 is a Kurzweil PC2R MIDI Track. I see MIDI signal happening on the track. So the PC2R is a keyboard synth, right? Is that MIDI track echoed too so that the MIDI gets back out to the Kurzweil's sound module, or is the Kurzweil using Local Control? SONAR will echo MIDI automatically by default if the MIDI track has focus. If not, you need to force the input echo on. Do you see signal in the audio track meters with it armed, and can you record it and play it back even though you don't hear anything while recording?
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Re:Basic, Basic Question
2011/04/05 01:02:56
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This may be a dumb response, but you do have the audio outs of the hardware synth going to a amp or something to get the sound back out of it? G
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konradh
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Re:Basic, Basic Question
2011/04/05 11:58:01
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Issue finally resolved. Thanks for the great help. 1-Your question is not dumb, but I did have audio outputs connected. (Although I have certainly been frustrated in the past over a failure to notice some simple thing—so it does happen.) 2-Problem in the case had a number of causes: (a) the MIDI interface was flaky so I went back to my trusty M-Audio 4x4; (b) MIDI ports were not set correctly on the tracks in Sonar (my stupidity); and (c) there are intermittent issues with Sonar and audio drivers. I have a work-around for this last issue, but Sweetwater is still analyzing the root cause since they did the software installation (Sonar/V-Studio, Ivory II, Vienna, Fab Four, and Creation Station 64). Different things happening at different times made it hard to diagnose the problem, but I think I am OK now--and thanks again.
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