chaunceyc
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Randomize / unique Clip color...a (non-Inspector) suggestion.
I'm finding that I truly hate having the clip properties over in the inspector in X1, because it is way over on the left side so to just do routine things like re-coloring clips it is going to wear out the wheel on my trackball in record time. If inspector and track header is open to usable size, the clips you are working with almost necessarily over in the rightmost 40% of your screen. If you are using multiple monitors, the inspector may be way off to the left on another monitor. So, in order to click on a clip, scroll over to the color selector area and back, it is a minimum of 24" mouse cursor travel round-trip and possibly much higher than that. I've complained about this earlier, since Sonar 8 let you access the highlighted clip property in the center of the page with a simple ALT+ENTER--from there you could rename it, recolor it or whatever. I know I've probably already lost this battle, but maybe I could get something else that would make this extreme drudgework slightly less painful. What I'm trying to accomplish is simply visual uniqueness among clips. I may have recorded 64 bars of beat ideas and want to cull the unneeded ones and come up with some variations or modified clips of the good ones. By default, every single clip that I split on this track is going to have the same exact color [which X1 seems to assign either tan, beige, ecru, sand, off-white, or khaki for some unknown reason - thankfully one track is a dull blue, but that is an issue for a future post]. Anyhow, with the trackview down to <50% usable screen real estate, I can't tell at a glance which ones are unique, copies, or variations because clipnames aren't readable on small clips or at low zoom. So that split containing 4 bars of greatness looks just like the 4 bars of garbage. I would love a KEY-BINDABLE function that would simply pick a random unused color and apply it to the highlighted clip(s) in a track. You make a variation of a clip, click+keystroke and presto : it LOOKS unique because it IS. Exact copies of that one would inherit this color property. Even Better: After you've applied trims to clips, you could select all clips on a track and tell it to assign each one a unique color. Brilliant. That combined bounce to clip now looks different than the original clip it came from. Visually I can now see that The current method is: click on clip, "I" to invoke inspector, , scr-o-o-o-o-o-olll 12" left, click on inspector clip sub subtab, scroll 3" down to color dropdown arrow, click on dropdown arrow, scroll 1" down to desired color, click on desired color, "I" to hide inspector, scr-o-o-o-o-o-olll 12" back to the right, select next clip you want to recolor, start scr-o-o-o-o-o-ollling process anew. rinse and repeat. Do that for 10 different clips and tell me you don't want to chew off your mousing arm. Surely this can be improved upon?
post edited by chaunceyc - 2011/03/31 03:47:01
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subtlearts
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Re:Randomize / unique Clip color...a (non-Inspector) suggestion.
2011/03/31 04:04:53
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good observations. Adding a copy of the Inspector dialog to the right-click-on-clip menu would seem like a reasonable suggestion and hopefully not too much of a drain on dev resources. Did you put in a feature request?
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chaunceyc
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Re:Randomize / unique Clip color...a (non-Inspector) suggestion.
2011/03/31 04:18:30
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I didn't even mention that with renaming in 8.5, ALT+ENTER brings you into clip property with the Clip Name active, which meant you could just start typing to rename a file. Simply Click, Alt+Enter, <NAME> Enter Done! Your mouse cursor remains where it began when you started the process. Compare that with the endless scrolling now needed to rename... Assuming Inspector is open and the Clip properties subtab is expanded, Click on clip, scroll 12" left , Click in the ultra-tiny name field (13 chars. visible at a time), move hands to keyboard, type name, <ENTER> move hand back to mouse, scroll mouse 12" right to return cursor it to the area of the screen where you last worked with it.
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Re:Randomize / unique Clip color...a (non-Inspector) suggestion.
2011/03/31 05:46:20
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Why not Undock the Inspector Module and you can float it right next to where you're editing your clips. Not as elegant as a right click but also much better than having to go right across the screen/s
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chaunceyc
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Re:Randomize / unique Clip color...a (non-Inspector) suggestion.
2011/03/31 13:28:13
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I haven't submitted it as a feature suggestion, but man would I love to have the right-click back. I thought I would put it out for the forum to discuss, maybe I'm the only one this change irritated so much. I'm not keen on having a floating inspector because it invariably is going to be floating in front of something I want to see, and moving / floating / docking are additional steps as well -- I usually want it on the left or off, by the time I've turned it on, made it float and moved it to the new spot, I've already had almost as much mouse travel and hassle as I'm trying to avoid, and then it adds the steps to redock it or rehide it before doing other work. It's just one of those many little things that demonstrably mangles the user experience and kills efficiency on the frequent tasks, despite claims to the contrary.
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subtlearts
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Re:Randomize / unique Clip color...a (non-Inspector) suggestion.
2011/03/31 16:23:59
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I like the inspector well enough where it is; floating it is likely to annoy me in another way. I am more interested in having fairly thorough right-click contextual menus for stuff like this. Of course the problem is that every user is likely to have a different array of things they'd like to have appearing in such menus. It strikes me that Cakewalk was heading in the direction, for a while, of giving power-users substantial control over things like this - not necessarily in terms of contextual menus, but certainly with the tools, plug-in lists, etc. Whatever else Skylight is, it does seem to represent a step away from this everything-is-customizable approach, and while I understand to a degree the motivation behind it, it was bound to tick off the power users, and indeed it has. I realize this is not likely to happen next week, but what do people think about something along the lines of an expanded keybindings menu that allowed for actions to be inserted into contextual menus as well as bound to particular key combinations? Reaper has this, and while the implementation is not necessarily elegant, it works - you can add just about whatever action you want into whatever menu drop-down you want. This would of course step away from X1's 'consistency above all' focus, but I have to say, why not? If I'm allowed to change the keybindings to suit my individual workflow, why not menus? Now that's a feature request I can get behind. I think I'll step up and write that one up. Thoughts?
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chaunceyc
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Re:Randomize / unique Clip color...a (non-Inspector) suggestion.
2011/03/31 17:35:45
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Well said. It is hard to argue that customizable right-click options would somehow clutter up the X1's info-hiding simplistic MS Office Ribbon-style interface.
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