JV1010 with sonar records nothing but "Plinking Notes"

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2011/04/01 00:54:51 (permalink)

JV1010 with sonar records nothing but "Plinking Notes"

I give up. I have EIGHT Roland JV1080's in my rack and 4 JV1010's. When I record all tracks the 1080s play work fine recording note duration, velocity, everything. The 1010s record velocity and every note sounds like an abbreviated plink of a banjo. What am I doing wrong?
 
Tried the Same record scenario on the Sonar Home studio and SAME DEAL. 1080s record just as played and 1010s record like a plinking banjo when the actual patch is strings with a harp.
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    bvideo
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    Re:JV1010 with sonar records nothing but "Plinking Notes" 2011/04/01 09:02:41 (permalink)
    What does the event view say about the notes on the various MIDI tracks? Any chance there are doubled notes? Short notes?

    Can you describe more about the MIDI recording process, i.e. how are you driving all the JV's. Sonar or an external sequencer? Multiple channels each? Same channel each box or different? Midi thru or 12 ports? The plinking happens on playback after you record MIDI?
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    Re:JV1010 with sonar records nothing but "Plinking Notes" 2011/04/01 11:16:25 (permalink)
    Possible MIDI loop on the 1010's? MIDI Echo on?

    Paul Baker
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    Re:JV1010 with sonar records nothing but "Plinking Notes" 2011/04/04 03:46:17 (permalink)
    I have 3 M-Audio Radium 61s. 1 that controls the JV1080's, 1 that controls the JV1010's and 1 that controls Spectrasonics Omnisphere and Steinberg Orchestra. Midi Echo is ON on all tracks. The JV1080 tracks show the long stings of events when notes are held. The JV1010's show only velocity tails and little "specs" on the record track. 

    Playing wise, the JV1010's play perfectly. My recording method is arm all tracks, hit the record button and let it fly. Whatever I record is then stored Midi wise so I can play it back. I cannot read or write music so this helps me tremendously if I play a passage that I like I then have it "saved".

    One rack of 4 JV1080's are controlled by a Motu Micro lite, the second rack of 4 JV1080's yet another Motu Micro Lite, and the JV1010's are controlled by a MOTU (8 port) USB midi controller.

    Funny thing, when I mess with the Radium USB Keyboard controller KNOBS I get the notes to delay somewhat but not perfectly. I use each Radium to control the volume DURING RECORDING using the SLIDE POTS only. Since I do allot of orchestrations for our church, this is a GREAT way to bring in gradual strings etc. 

    Maybe the JV1010's are hooked up as midi THRU and not Midi IN/Out. Need to check that.

    Have ONE LAST QUESTION. I want my recordings to start out at 0 volume level. In other words, if my sliders are on like 100 volume at the end of a playback, many times the volume will not "reset" if I play the track back again. I have all the sliders set as remote comtrols. Do I also need to set the to Arm for Automation?  THANKS
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    Re:JV1010 with sonar records nothing but "Plinking Notes" 2011/04/04 13:11:18 (permalink)
    I'm wondering if the 1010's are possibly on the same MIDI channel instead of being on different channels? Also, I'm curious as to why you have so many 1080's and 1010's. Are you really using all 16 channels on each = 192 different sounds?

    Paul Baker
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    Re:JV1010 with sonar records nothing but "Plinking Notes" 2011/04/04 15:15:14 (permalink)
    The short-note display and plinking may be due to the  instrument configuration you are using for the output channels of those tracks. Your output setting that chooses the output port & channel for your track would normally have an instrument definition associated with it. Each port has an associated choice of 16 channels, each of which would be associated with an instrument definition with patch lists or a drum kit. Choosing a channel associated with a drum kit would cause the display and the short notes you are seeing/hearing.

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    Re:JV1010 with sonar records nothing but "Plinking Notes" 2011/04/07 19:08:11 (permalink)
    Believe it or not, I have so many JV1080's because when I try to play a JV1080 with multiple use of the 16 tracks / instruments, the effects, sounds, and general  - as I call it - flavor of the sound seems to get chopped off on some sounds when playing. Believe me, I have TRIED to set up the 1080s with multiple sounds from the orchestra cards and other cards in PERFORMANCES and they just don't cut a 1080 playing 1 sound.

    Crazy and expensive, but I am a purist on sound. I sold a Korg MS20 and Korg MS10 a few years back, made about $4000 on the sale, and then set up my studio with these 1080s. I didn't need the Korgs (as I called them Little Sound Squirters) cause with all the virtual Moogs available, it just didn't cut hauling the Korgs to gigs where I had to turn and tweek knobs while the band waited for me to play the next song. 

    I have solved the problem with the PLINKING sound. Seems I needed to set the 2ND keyboard controller I use for the JV1010s to channel 2 and that solved the issue. My LAST ISSUE is that when I record I want the midi recording to Start all track volume controls on zero, and allow the volume controls to fade in and out as I slide them while recording, bringing in and out different orchestral sounds. 

    There has to be something that can do that in Cakewalk, Sonar but darned if I can find it. 

    I guess I still have another issue too. I can never seem to get Sonar to recognize a soft synth. I own Halion Orchestra, Omnisphere, And Mirislov Orchestra. 

    Any help would be appreciated.


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    Re:JV1010 with sonar records nothing but "Plinking Notes" 2011/04/07 23:44:15 (permalink)
    My LAST ISSUE is that when I record I want the midi recording to Start all track volume controls on zero, and allow the volume controls to fade in and out as I slide them while recording, bringing in and out different orchestral sounds. 



    Use a volume pedal. 

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