Session Drummer 3 - Recording Output

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2011/04/02 17:10:19 (permalink)

Session Drummer 3 - Recording Output

Would like to know how to set up and record the drum tracks from SD3 as individual tracks in X1.  When I insert SD3 with all audio outputs, the created tracks have no record button.  Also, I'm using a MIDI drum machine as a controller but adjusting the sensitivity at the controller does not have any effect.  Any help would be appreciated,  thanks.
 
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    Loptec
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    Re:Session Drummer 3 - Recording Output 2011/04/02 18:56:14 (permalink)
    If you have all outputs assigned to separate tracks and it's all working, all you have to do is to freeze the synth to get the tracks as wave files.

    To do this, go to the synth rack and click the star button (freeze synth) next to the Solo button on the synth.
    Or you can go to the track view, to the synth's track. The freeze synth button's there too :)

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    Re:Session Drummer 3 - Recording Output 2011/04/02 19:11:02 (permalink)
    Have you opened the mixer in SD3 and assigned each instrument to a different track? That's the first step. And you will only have one record button on the MIDI track which will record a single MIDI clip with all the instrument info in there. Then you can freeze like Loptec suggests.

    Also make sure you watch the video master class on SD3. Tons of good info there.

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    Re:Session Drummer 3 - Recording Output 2011/04/03 16:07:08 (permalink)
    Thanks for the replies.  The freeze button is inactive.  I want to record each SD3 track to its own audio track in X1.  For example, kick on track 1, snare on track 2, hi-hat on track 3, etc.  That is different than a MIDI track, right?
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    Re:Session Drummer 3 - Recording Output 2011/04/03 16:23:44 (permalink)
    Carvin - Start here. Seriously bro. It will answer all your questions and then some.

    http://cakewalk.com/CakeT.SONARU.aspx/Master-Class

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    Re:Session Drummer 3 - Recording Output 2011/04/03 17:00:29 (permalink)
    I watched the videos but they didn't explain the freeze button.  The only thing I use MIDI for is a controller.  I don't care about MIDI or step editing.  I want to record drum audio tracks in real-time with a MIDI controller.  Any help would be appreciated.
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    Re:Session Drummer 3 - Recording Output 2011/04/03 17:15:25 (permalink)
    First off recording MIDI is simply that. There is NO audio associated with MIDI data. Think of it as raw and pretty simple computer type data. Again, there's no audio in MIDI data. So with a DAW like Sonar you record your MIDI data and it will then trigger a soft synth like Session Drummer so you can hear the audio through Session Drummer.

    After that's happened you then render that data into an audio file. You CANNOT "record drum audio tracks in real-time with a MIDI controller" you can only record the MIDI data that triggers the soft synth. That can be heard real time (latency ignored) but no 'audio' is recorded real time. It is rendered, bounced, frozen into audio files later.

    I've never used the freeze button for recording MIDI into session drummer so I don't why one would use that as usual others will know more.

    http://cakewalk.com/CakeT...spx/Master-Class  try Drum Production Part One

    EDIT: Carvin what are you using for a controller? Sound card? Computer? Do you know the basics of MIDI? Hope I didn't insult you with such a basic explanation.
    post edited by HumbleNoise - 2011/04/03 17:19:21

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    Re:Session Drummer 3 - Recording Output 2011/04/03 17:40:26 (permalink)
    I understand that MIDI is just data, but I was under the impression that the SD3 audio output could be routed to actual audio tracks.  How do you render the data to an audio file?
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    Re:Session Drummer 3 - Recording Output 2011/04/03 17:55:09 (permalink)
    In any soft synth in Sonar one way is to select the MIDI track and the audio track(s) and go to the 'track' menu and click 'bounce to track.' Choose the source track(s) and destination track in that dbx and you'll end up with separate audio tracks for each drum instrument.

    This all assumes you've set up Session Drummer in the mixer like the second response suggested, and that you've watched the drum master class(es) which explains the initial set up, and that you have at least cracked the manual or checked the help file in Sonar for some of these most basic of tasks. Try "converting MIDI to audio" in the help file.

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    Re:Session Drummer 3 - Recording Output 2011/04/03 18:14:58 (permalink)
    Unfortunately Sonar does not have the ability to record directly from a soft synth (many have requested it, but for now it cannot be done). You would need to record the midi data, then freeze the track(s) or bounce them to new tracks as HumbleNoise has explained.

    You don't have to use Step Sequencer, or PRV to record the midi. If you want to play it from a controller - go ahead.

    Keep in mind the drums you are hearing on most modern recordings (especially within certain genres) is tracked via Midi, not Audio. This is done because of it's flexibility, not the lack of it. With Midi you are not tied to any sound and it is much easier to edit the performance.

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