Focusrite Saffire PRO 40 -VS- Roland Octa-Capture

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Focusrite Saffire PRO 40 -VS- Roland Octa-Capture

Hello All,
 
I am banging my head against a wall because i am torn between  two audio I/O.   There is first the Roland Octa-Capture http://www.rolandus.com/products/productdetails.php?ProductId=1127
 
This is a nice I/O with an AUTO-SENS function which intelligently sets optimal input levels for all preamps.  as well as having four independent software-controlled Direct Mixers for creating custom monitor mixes. 
 
On the other hand, there is the Focusrite Saffire PRO 40 http://www.focusrite.com/products/saffire/saffire_pro_40/ which provides two independent headphone buses each with their own level controls available on the front panel, Front panel controls which include a main monitor dial with dim and mute switches, and the Focusrite Compression, Reverb, Gating and EQ VST/AU plug-ins.
 
Oh my!!  too much to decide about.
 
The Focusrite Saffire PRO 40 is $499.99 from online stores.
The Roland OCTA-CAPTURE is $599.99 from online stores.
 
Someone please give me a reason to choose one over the other!!
 
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    Re:Focusrite Saffire PRO 40 -VS- Roland Octa-Capture 2011/04/08 16:44:38 (permalink)
    is there an override on the auto sensing input on the octapature?  I don't think I would like that feature myself.

    both units look really nice on paper.

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    Re:Focusrite Saffire PRO 40 -VS- Roland Octa-Capture 2011/04/09 16:31:22 (permalink)
    Beagle


    is there an override on the auto sensing input on the octapature?  I don't think I would like that feature myself.

    both units look really nice on paper.

    Beagle,
     
    The auto sensing is a manual switch, so you can have it auto sense he input levels or not. I just can't decide between the two.
     
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    Re:Focusrite Saffire PRO 40 -VS- Roland Octa-Capture 2011/04/11 05:38:14 (permalink)
    If low latency is important to you, then the Octa-Capture would likely have the edge.  In fact, I think it's safe to say that the Roland unit would generally integrate better with Sonar, for obvious reasons.

    On the other hand, you don't mention your I/O needs, or workflow, so it's rather difficult to "convince" you one way or the other...

    FWIW, I don't think you can go wrong with either of these; I'm also in the market for a new interface, and both are on my short list (except I'm looking at the Saffire 24 DSP). 



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    Re:Focusrite Saffire PRO 40 -VS- Roland Octa-Capture 2011/04/11 06:35:26 (permalink)
    I have a Saffire Pro 40 that I've used for almost 3 years.  I like the preamps in this unit as they are "transparent" - what you put into it is what is recorded.  I also have an MAudio Fastrack Ultra 8R and the preamps in it change the input signal slightly.  e.g. I originally did a recording using the Saffire Pro 40 with my steel.  The Pro 40 was down for an AC power switch (that Focusrite sent at no cost even though it was out of warranty) and I used the Fastrack Ultra 8R to fix a part in the steel track.  The fixed part was like it had been EQ'd to take out some of the lows and add highs and obviously sounded different.  The steel input was identical so it has to be the Ultra 8R that changed the tone.  The steel track was a "clean" track, if it had been an "overdrive" guitar I would have never heard any difference.

    I went back later, after I replaced the Pro 40's AC power switch and redid the "fixed" section again and it was back to the original sound.


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    Re:Focusrite Saffire PRO 40 -VS- Roland Octa-Capture 2011/04/11 08:14:04 (permalink)
    I have an ISA-428 from Focusrite and I think fireberd described it pretty well.  If you are looking for transparent you will get that from the Focusrite pres.

    I've not had a Roland interface (using a Lynx AES-16 at this point) since I had my Roland VS-2480 which I always tried to bypass the AD converter because it was not very clean.  I'm not saying that the Octa-Capture would have anything like those older converters (at least I'd hope not) just speaking from my experience.

    If it were me, I'd probably consider the Roland unit first as it would probably get the best support here.  If you are thinking of considering using it with other DAWs, I'd probably lean towards the Focusrite (as long as the firewire stuff doesn't cause you to pull your hair out).

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    Re:Focusrite Saffire PRO 40 -VS- Roland Octa-Capture 2011/04/12 09:05:42 (permalink)
    Ok guys,

    I made the Roland Octa-Capture purchase from Musiciansfriends.com.  I Saw on their website that they were offering 10% off of purchases because of tax season, however, there is a list of manufacturers that are not participating and the list consist of all of the well know names.  I called Musicians Friends and spoke to a customer service Rep about the list and he took $60.00 off of the price which is the actual 10%.

    Waiting for my Octa-Capture to be delivered... I sold my Presonus Firepod for $300.00 on craigslist this past Sunday.  The Windows 7 drivers are terrible for firewire use.  I also read an answerbase post on the Focusrite site that the Firewire drives for their products will work with Windows 7; however, they may need to be set to a legacy driver to work properly.  [link=http://www.focusrite.com/answerbase/en/article.php?id=1030]http://www.focusrite.com/...en/article.php?id=1030[/link]

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    Re:Focusrite Saffire PRO 40 -VS- Roland Octa-Capture 2011/04/12 10:16:04 (permalink)
    let us know how it goes, Jesse.  I'm very curious about this unit!

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    Re:Focusrite Saffire PRO 40 -VS- Roland Octa-Capture 2011/04/12 17:39:17 (permalink)
    I am not using the legacy drivers with my Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 and it's working fine.  I was using the legacy firewire driver in Vista and when I installed Win 7 Pro 64 bit, on a separate hard drive, I forgot to change to the legacy.  I've had Win 7, 64 bit since it came (over a year ago).


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    Re:Focusrite Saffire PRO 40 -VS- Roland Octa-Capture 2011/04/12 18:38:20 (permalink)
    fireberd


    I am not using the legacy drivers with my Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 and it's working fine.  I was using the legacy firewire driver in Vista and when I installed Win 7 Pro 64 bit, on a separate hard drive, I forgot to change to the legacy.  I've had Win 7, 64 bit since it came (over a year ago).

    Firebird,
     
    I am happy that you didn't need to use the legacy drivers with your Focusrite Saffire Pro 40.  I had the terribel experience of having to use the legacy drivers with my Firepod using Windows 7 32 bit, and then after switching over to Windows 7 64 bit, the darn thing kept popping and clicking all of the time.   I said forget firewire after that experience and decided to use USB 2.0.  That is one of my reason for deciding to get the Octa-Capture.
     
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    Re:Focusrite Saffire PRO 40 -VS- Roland Octa-Capture 2011/04/13 08:23:44 (permalink)
    Jesse G,

    Do you use other DAW software other than Sonar?  I'm just curious more than anything.  I'd like to know how the Roland interfaces works in other DAW software.  I'd expect it to work very well with Sonar, but if you have a need to run another's software I just wonder if the experience is still the same.

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    Re:Focusrite Saffire PRO 40 -VS- Roland Octa-Capture 2011/04/13 09:20:21 (permalink)
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    Jesse G,

    Do you use other DAW software other than Sonar?  I'm just curious more than anything.  I'd like to know how the Roland interfaces works in other DAW software.  I'd expect it to work very well with Sonar, but if you have a need to run another's software I just wonder if the experience is still the same.

    Thanks,
    Tom
     
     
    Tom,
     
    I also use Presonus Studio One, and Sony Acid Pro 6, but Sonar X1 is my main DAW software of choice which I use daily.  At the moment, I can't speak on how the Octa-Capture will work with these other DAW softwares, because I haven't receive my shipment from Musician Friends as of yet. I am eagerly waiting it's arrival, however, they were out of stock when I ordered so it will be around April 18 when It arrives.
     
    Craig Anderton performed a review of the Octa-Capture with other Daw Software and he said it worked great.  Read it here ~~> http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?2746804-Roland-Octa-Capture-Interface-Now-with-Conclusions
     
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    Re:Focusrite Saffire PRO 40 -VS- Roland Octa-Capture 2011/04/13 10:05:53 (permalink)
    Jesse G, I tried several Presonus Firewire units - Firepod was one of them and none ever worked or worked correctly (the last new one I tried had a bad channel).


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    Re:Focusrite Saffire PRO 40 -VS- Roland Octa-Capture 2011/04/13 10:30:30 (permalink)
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    Jesse G, I tried several Presonus Firewire units - Firepod was one of them and none ever worked or worked correctly (the last new one I tried had a bad channel).

    Firebird,
     
    My Firepod worked great under Windows XP, but once I switched to Windows 7, it was all down hill.  The drivers just didn't make the cut with the OS.  I've never had a problem with USB so I don't expect to have one with the Octa-Capture 2.0.  Also, the reviews are AWESOME!!!
     
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    Re:Focusrite Saffire PRO 40 -VS- Roland Octa-Capture 2011/04/25 11:57:38 (permalink)
    Very interested in hearing how the Octa-Capture is working out.  My Tascam FW-1884 is on the fritz again and I'm considering this unit as a replacement.
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