Weird evening with X1B244

wow..dude..thats strange..though it doesnt surprise me.you do a system restore?

If this doesn't convince you that you need to run backup images, nothing will... Three hours to reinstall?  And you're fine with that?!

Twenty minutes backing up (just the first time, then once a month or so), then 15-20 minutes to restore your C: drive... Here's the free program that will do this:

http://www.paragon-softwa...ome/br-free/index.html

You can also get similar functionality with Acronis True Image for about $40 USD.

Really.  You need to do yourself a huge favor and get one of these apps.  I'd be glad to answer any questions about either (you can PM me if you like).

Hmmm... You said you did uninstall Sonar 8 from the Control panel?

Well - there is one obvious thing that has gone wrong then. You see - the uninstall information that is supplied as a data file (most times uninst000.dat) only "knows" about Sonar 8. Unfortunately at the time Sonar 8 was installed there was no information about future versions of Sonar (because the software makers did not have a time machine or something like that), and the uninstall just "empty's" everything in the "/Program Files/Cakewalk/Sonar 8 Producer" directory - even if it is been used by other programs. But thatt's not all - it also "tweaks" the registery. That last thing is (in my eyes) one of the most horrible inventions of Microsoft. If the smallest thing goes wrong with this huge database file (because that is exactly what it is), big instability problems and malfunctions would occur.

That's the reason I never uninstall an older program after installing a newer version on top of it. In some cases this goes fine, but I have seen a lot of cases where this gone horribly wrong. This is absolutely not unique to Sonar. When installing a new version I always use a "clean" partition or hard drive (or even safer - a completely new hard drive.. those things are really cheap these day's). In that way you will never get the "leftovers" from older versions that (also) can give unpredictable side effects.

You could argue the software writers should put in a piece of program that would have "tweaked" the uninstall info from Sonar 8, but that's kind of hard. In that case every older version has to be "tweaked" (you could have even older versions than Sonar 8 installed), and if you uninstall 8.5 for instance, it would also have to "tweak" X1 uninstall information. An I am not even talking about the numerous changes in the registery that would have to be made.

I really hope you get your system up and running in no time Middleman, but maybe it is a good idea to do the next time an  install on a "clean" hard disk. That can save you a lot of frustration. I wish you all the luck and hope you will sort this out.

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Whoops - I see you already solved it. Sorry for this useless post. My fault...

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The quickfix only changes
C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\SONAR X1 Producer\SONARPDR.exe

and places the old SONARPDR.exe into

C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\SONAR X1 Producer\Backup\"date of install xxxxxx"\Version_18.0.2.244\SONARPDR.exe

deswind

JonD



http://www.paragon-software.com/home/br-free/index.html

QUESTION:  With this program - do you have to reactivate various software products including windows itself?

No.  You're not changing your hardware/digital signature, so unless you do something crazy like change the motherboard without running a backup afterwards, you'll be fine. 

From my own experience (over a decade of using three different backup imaging programs), the restore will return everything exactly where it was at the time of your last backup.  So, assuming you do regular backups  (a good practice is, say, once a month, and before any major upgrades), you should never have to worry about affecting any activations.

I am not a registry expert but there were references in the registry to VST and VST 64. In these folders were a complete list of plugins and the UADs were listed in both places as well as under X1, 8.5 and 8.0 (yes even though 8.0  had been uninstalled, there were still 3 references of it left in the registry) - even after a reboot. The only thing I can assume is that follow on versions were using the same reference location as 8.0. Once it was removed, later versions could no longer reference them. However, they would not rescan them either. The software just refused to scan that directory.

I did not look to see if other 3rd party were affected. I figured out real quick that something in the registry (or plug in manager) was telling 8.5 and X1 to skip or lock out the UAD dlls. So I just reinstalled X1 from scratch and upon it's first scan, it found everything. Also 8.5 64 bit also started working as well once X1 64 was done scanning the plugins.
 
As I said earlier the backup situation was not desirable as I did not want 8.0 running again. Nor did I want to cross reference registry settings to determine where was the cross link, possibly it's an internal issue with the plug in manager and there is no way to hunt that down. All is good now. Back up and running.