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In One Fell Swoop Adobe Audition Leaves the DAW Market
Last night Adobe announced Audition CS 5.5. This addition will be included with the payed upgrade of CS5.5. no MIDI no CD burning, 5.1 Surround and mac compatible. I guess Sound booth was not good enough for them. They barely got it right with Audition 3. I guess the market they look at would be better served but it's like they fell on the knife with this release. I only mention this here cause alot of us use it for fine tuning. Oh it look's as if it has 32bit internal audio engine as per Audition 3 and added multi-core support, basically an integration to the Premiere Suite, R.I.P. My Dollars worth Here's the Link: http://blogs.adobe.com/insidesound/2011/04/audition-cs5-5-for-mac-os-and-windows-is-here.html Here's the lowdown: http://www.adobe.com/products/audition/faq.html
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Re:In One Fell Swoop Adobe Audition Leaves the DAW Market
2011/04/11 10:44:07
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Boo, hiss. Yep, it's my non-Sonar go-to audio editor. Didn't they try this with either the CS2 or CS3 package, and then bring it back to a standalone app with Audition 3?
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Re:In One Fell Swoop Adobe Audition Leaves the DAW Market
2011/04/11 10:51:08
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I guess there trying to justify a .5 payed upgrade in the same way as Cakewalk with 8.5, but not even close cause cakewalk was alot better. People over at the Audition forum are going to be furious.
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Re:In One Fell Swoop Adobe Audition Leaves the DAW Market
2011/04/11 16:42:15
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If you are looking for a Wave Editor to augment SONAR any old version of Audition ought to cover all your needs. Maybe they think not so many people will need an upgrade. A few might and it's only $99. Meanwhile a new customer can get the latest couple years improvements to small details for the full price. I have several wave editors and really like Audition. But I can't think of many reasons to upgrade until I simply need another license. What features were you hoping for that you think they are not providing? Just curious. best regards, mike
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Re:In One Fell Swoop Adobe Audition Leaves the DAW Market
2011/04/11 17:01:08
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There has been a standing thread on the Adobe forum for Audition 4 to up the anty in full DAW capability. I think alot of loyalty for that base was lost, Right now there are threads asking for red book CD burning back and MIDI questions are about to asked for again. I only use it for wave editing myself and wasn't expecting to much except maybe a few more tools to that end. I don't think it's worth an upgrade from me at this time. This once again illustrates that if you can't compete stick with what work's, i.e. it's a the Wave Editor and not the DAW that most are using anyway. X1 isn't the only one suffering teething pain, look's like Audition's bringing up the rear.
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Re:In One Fell Swoop Adobe Audition Leaves the DAW Market
2011/04/11 17:07:02
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Sony Acid also looks like a casualty in the "red sea rather than blue ocean" DAW wars. It's annoying when you spend thousands of hours with a program or piece of hardware and it then becomes obsolete. Like when your favorite TV show ends it's run. Even with lots of people clamoring for DAWs and the average user able to buy 2-3 of them, the companies are deciding it's not worth the investmen competing in the market. Kind of makes you think there are going to be more casualties. The Adobe Audition users all speak very highly of that program don't they? Hard luck for them.
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Re:In One Fell Swoop Adobe Audition Leaves the DAW Market
2011/04/11 22:57:18
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I've never done much with Audition's MIDI capability because I've always had Sonar or Project5 and never had the need. It's the best audio editor I've ever run into hands down, and the sheer breadth and depth of the audio filtering/cleanup tools is phenomenal. I'll be using it until I can't.
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Re:In One Fell Swoop Adobe Audition Leaves the DAW Market
2011/04/12 12:09:44
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Adobe never had plans to compete in the DAW market. When they bought Cool Edit and hired its creator, it was to fill a hole in their video-centric product suite. This version sees better integration with Adobe Premier, potentially better integration with DAWS (Pro Tools and Logic being the target market) and Mac compatibility. The latter makes the most sense from a business standpoint since Adobe has always been a Mac-oriented company (you won't find many PCs in the Adobe offices!). So while this will disappoint many who use Audition as their primary DAW, it won't affect the majority of AA users who use it primarily for editing. I've been looking forward to the next release for a while, but sadly it seems to have nothing of interest to me. I have a copy of Premier but it crashed the two systems I tried it on and was clumsy to use compared to friendlier applications such as Sony Vegas. Adobe's explanation for why the new version lacks many AA3 features was weak, and strangely reminiscent of Cakewalk's logic regarding X1: Adobe Audition CS5.5. is a completely new product. It offers many of the core capabilities in Adobe Audition 3, but because it is based on new underlying technology, it does not have an identical feature set. Some features, such as MIDI support, are not included because other tools on the market offer those capabilities, and they are not part of the core audio post-production workflows at which Adobe Audition excels. Other features, like CD burning, are not included because the majority of newly created content is distributed digitally, and inexpensive or free third-party CD burning tools, such as iTunes, are readily available. "... because other tools on the market offer those capabilities"?? WTF? Since when does a software vendor justify dropping functionality because competitors also do it? That's usually a justification for putting the feature IN! The bottom line is: keep on using AA3 if you already have it, otherwise grab a copy of Audition 3 now while you still can. If any online vendors are unloading AA3 at a discount, jump on it. EDIT: a more frank explanation (presumably by an Adobe employee) appeared in a forum posting: The reason that not everything is in the new version is simply because there wasn't time to do it all properly. The developers have had their fingers burned with releasing 'unready' versions of Audition before (AA2.0) because of corporate release strategy, so this time, they've played safe by making damn sure that the bits that are there work properly.
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Re:In One Fell Swoop Adobe Audition Leaves the DAW Market
2011/04/12 12:12:18
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Bit, I use Audition 3 and am trying to figure out if I qualify for upgrading to the next version - not finding anything specific, it seems like Soundbooth users are on that track. Do you know anything? Thanks.
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Re:In One Fell Swoop Adobe Audition Leaves the DAW Market
2011/04/12 13:33:13
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From SoundBooth, the upgrade price is $99. However, there is no upgrade path from Audition unless it happens to be part of a suite. Here is a list of eligible products; Audition is not on the list. Looks like those of us using AA3 will simply continue to use it as-is, just as Cool Edit users have been doing.
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Re:In One Fell Swoop Adobe Audition Leaves the DAW Market
2013/01/09 05:51:11
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Hi, I know ,it´s an old thread and old software, but some us may look for a free Audio editor: Adobe gives away Audition 3: included in the elder Creative Suite.It is possible to download Audition 3 separat. This software is 32 bit only and runs on Win XP, Win 2000 and some users reported it runs on 64 bit Win 7 as a 32 bit installation. best regards www.adobe.com/de/downloads/cs2_downloads/index.html Sorry, anyhow the link does not work and I feel like having 2 left hands! If some one is interrestsd,he can find out?
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Re:In One Fell Swoop Adobe Audition Leaves the DAW Market
2013/01/09 17:10:24
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That's very good news, Pragi, if true. Audition may be old, but it still beats any free audio editor by a longshot.
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Re:In One Fell Swoop Adobe Audition Leaves the DAW Market
2013/01/09 20:00:45
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bitflipper Adobe never had plans to compete in the DAW market. When they bought Cool Edit and hired its creator, it was to fill a hole in their video-centric product suite. This version sees better integration with Adobe Premier, potentially better integration with DAWS (Pro Tools and Logic being the target market) and Mac compatibility. The latter makes the most sense from a business standpoint since Adobe has always been a Mac-oriented company (you won't find many PCs in the Adobe offices!). If such is the case, it's a pretty weird move. Most of the PT users I know do their editing directly in Pro Tools. As for Logic, Apple recently dropped their old Soundtrack Pro but also acquired Redmatica, makers of a series of tools for sampling, editing and library management - which leads me to believe that Logic's own sample editor is likely to go through a major overhaul. With both Wavelab and Sound Forge recently ported to Mac, I don't see much room left for competition. Even Bias' Peak, arguably the most popular failed to keep up and the company went out of business last summer. Anyway, if someone's looking for the ultimate sample editor on Mac, DSP Quattro offers an incredibly powerful set of tools, at a much better price. Plus, their support kicks every big guys out of the water.
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