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2011/04/11 21:19:29 (permalink)

MME and/or Latency on 64bit Laptops: Adhoc Composing

I'm wondering your safest bets for running Sonar on a (good) Laptop where I use bluetooth to connect to the car stereo (monitors) ... for ad-hoc composing, tweeking mixes, light recording, etc.  
 
Note: I have the cw ASIO portable cards but these are extremely cumbersome: ie.:
1) ... to have to velcro the UA 4FX sound card on the back of the laptop
2) ... to have to use cans (since auxillary car-stereo inputs sound horrible to my ears)
3) ... to rely on USB connections
 
MME running at 10msecs latency which seems to have proven FINE for:
 
1) Bounced/frozen tracks (30+/- tracks) 
 
2) some 3rd party plugins: Voxengo, Izotope (64 bit)
 
3) The built in DR Dre mics
 
4) Bluetooth Device(s) (car stereo, wireless cans, etc.)
5) The usual track EQs, compressions, and sends (reverb, delay, compression busses) etc. ... seem fine enough (I think)
 
MME running at 10msecs latency which seems to have proven BAD for: 
 
1) Streaming audio from memory/CPU intensive EWQL files/programs seems iffy. 
 
2) Running CPU intensive 3rd party stuff with JBridge (like Waves plugins) seems quite iffy.
 
3) Recording live takes with high end mics (as this requires the cw UA 4FX sound card, which, I believe, may be *clumsy for Sonar* (my preferred recording program).
 
4) TruePiano and other unbounced MIDI synths seem to miss notes in crowded sections.  Ouch!
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Any +/- thoughts (anyone)?  Surely you've tried and failed/succeeded with some of this and could share some hopes and warnings.
 
I'm hoping not to have to freeze/bounce all tracks!  But, if that has been your experience (using laptops ad-hoc) ... please share.
post edited by Philip - 2011/04/11 22:03:20

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    chuckebaby
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    Re:MME and/or Latency 2011/04/11 21:27:56 (permalink) ☄ Helpful
    mme worked great for mr when i was just importing audio..and stable as all too..but the latency when recording was bad

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    Re:MME and/or Latency 2011/04/11 21:46:01 (permalink)
    Thanks for chiming, Chuckebaby,

    I understand recording (with mics and echos at 10msecs latency) is the worst thing with MME.

    It is the mixing side (I'm a mix-aholic) I'm more concerned with (I think)

    ... just trying to do adhoc inspirations, if necessary, with the samples/samplers, etc.

    Philip  
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    Re:MME and/or Latency 2011/04/11 21:54:57 (permalink)
    yes for mixing phillip mme is very good and stable..i was mixing 35-40 tracks in mme before i bought my soundcard interface.i would record on a twenty four track recorder then import 20 track to sonar.go back to my 24 track erase 20 tracks and over dub..import those in and they automaticaly synch up.so it was great with mme.on a conexant soundcard.or relteck.wont matter.minimal problems doing that

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    Re:MME and/or Latency 2011/04/11 22:05:08 (permalink)
    Thanks, that's quite encouraging, Charlie.  (Your last sentence may need clarifying)

    Philip  
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    Re:MME and/or Latency 2011/04/11 22:14:13 (permalink)
    the conexant soundcard(it ussually comes stock with your computer..comes with windows)
    relteck is another stock soundcard from windows.both do the job well when just mixing.

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    Re:MME and/or Latency 2011/04/12 22:33:16 (permalink)
    Thanks again, Charlie.

    Things went well today tweeking (in my car with the bluetooth (from laptop to stereo)) ... I did have to widen latency to 20msecs ... but things seemed reasonably well.

    (I forgot to mention that I bought a DC-AC converter that attaches directly to my (Prius) battery ... so it is able to run my I7 laptop.)

    Philip  
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