jackhicks
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Separate Side Stick and Snare
I can't figure this out, and it happens in both Addictive Drums and Session drummer. I want to have the side stick and snare on separate tracks.
Even though I assign the side stick to it's own folder, it still insists on going to the snare folder. In some ways it makes sense, since it's part of the snare.
But the volume levels are way different, and I would like to add different treatments to each one.
As always, thanks!
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Re:Separate Side Stick and Snare
2011/04/16 01:09:14
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This drives me crazy too. Nothing you can do about it as far as I can tell.
I haven't tried this, but maybe you can try to load two instances of session drummer and load the snare on one and the side stick on the other?
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Re:Separate Side Stick and Snare
2011/04/16 01:48:15
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ive been trying to do this w/open hi hat-closed hi hat for about 5 months now..nada.
only thing i can sugest is loading the sid hit in the little 4 piece thing on the side..the little trigger pads?..try that.
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Re:Separate Side Stick and Snare
2011/04/16 02:48:02
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As Charlie says, load up the sidestick into a spare pad.
With packages like BFD2 it's a piece of cake to map all the different articulations to their own key in the drum map and from there you can control the individual voumes and velocities, ven though they come up on the same Track inside Sonar
Charlie - I listened to one of your songs last night - I have to say I'm really impressed with what you've managed to create! is that all you or are you part of a band?
Great stuff
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jackhicks
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Re:Separate Side Stick and Snare
2011/04/16 07:11:56
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Thanks for the comments. I've tried loading the stick onto a spare pad, but it still routes through the snare folder. I'm kinda glad to see that it's not something I'm doing wrong for a change.
I think the best solution is from Bub, and that is to load 2 session drummers, one just for the stick.
Thanks again!
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Re:Separate Side Stick and Snare
2011/04/16 07:55:58
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I've had to program a separate MIDI track just for the Side Stick. Then you can adjust it's velocity, pan, etc. independently.
It's not perfect, but it helps.
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Re:Separate Side Stick and Snare
2011/04/16 21:22:52
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Thumbs up on the side stick being on a separate midi track and adjust by velocity. FWIW, if you were recording a real drummer, he would be switching back and forth from side stick to full stick hits being recorded on the same mic,thus,the same track!
Some drummers are known to use an electronic trigger to a drum machine or sampler for sidestick or claps, whatever they prefer to have there.
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Re:Separate Side Stick and Snare
2011/04/16 22:19:21
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If I'm understanding you correctly, you want to be able to have independent control of the sidestick and snare hits.
In Superior, once I have my drum tracks (MIDI) pretty close, I bounce them down to audio tracks (keeping the MIDI tracks in case I want to change something later). Once I have the snare track containing sidesticks and full snare hits bounced to audio, I clone that snare track (don't clone events), split the sidesticks and snare hits and move the sidestick hits to the cloned track. Now I can control volume etc. independently.
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Re:Separate Side Stick and Snare
2011/04/17 00:03:47
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Bristol_Jonesey
As Charlie says, load up the sidestick into a spare pad.
With packages like BFD2 it's a piece of cake to map all the different articulations to their own key in the drum map and from there you can control the individual voumes and velocities, ven though they come up on the same Track inside Sonar
Charlie - I listened to one of your songs last night - I have to say I'm really impressed with what you've managed to create! is that all you or are you part of a band?
Great stuff
b.j..thanks alot bro..yes.its all me.on soanr x1..session drummer bonzo kit.i play a p-bass.a les paul through either guitar rig/amplitude or a marshal(miked) and vocals through a rode nt1000.its really just simple straight forward rock/pop..anyway.thanks for the listen..im on my way to your site right now to check out your stuff.
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Re:Separate Side Stick and Snare
2011/04/17 00:05:44
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jackhicks
Thanks for the comments. I've tried loading the stick onto a spare pad, but it still routes through the snare folder. I'm kinda glad to see that it's not something I'm doing wrong for a change.
I think the best solution is from Bub, and that is to load 2 session drummers, one just for the stick.
Thanks again!
did you right click/load instrument/in windows explorer sd3 stz files/snare ?
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