Staff view in SONAR X1?

I have been thinking about buying X1.  Does it still have the staff view like the old versions? It isn't mentioned on the advertising I have seen but it is the one thing about SONAR that nobody else has and I like it a lot more than the piano roll.

Be advised. There is a major flaw with the note selection on the floating Smart Tool as regards to the note duration not working right. But the Smart Tool in the Control works fine. This slows work flow down a good bit for me as I use the staff view quite a bit. They say this should be fixed in the next update. I sure hope so.

Changing the note-length by pushing the number keys (still) doesn't work. This was a major feature I liked to use ...

yes, i´m a bit disapointed too in this subject. To me one of the major features of sonar over other daws was the staff view flexibility. Where is the duration note bar??? do i really have to edit note by note inside of its preference option menu? that´s insane! .. same thing happens with the piano roll view... why can i edit with the same flexibility?? HUGE TURN DOWN on SONAR X1.. losing a fan here!!

I don't know if this helps but if you go to Paste Special and set up how many times you want to paste, when you use the Paste command it retains what you set in the Special window. So you don't have to jump back and forth.

The duration issues are new to X1.

But the staff view still, after decades, can't handle triplets correctly.  If three different notes are in a triplet, all is ok.  If there are two consecutive notes of the same value notes or a triplet rest, it treats them like dotted eight followed by a thirty-second.

Just a gripe.

garrigus

Combo

Note entry in Staff View has slowed down because in X1 you can no longer enter notes with the mouse in one hand and change note duration using the number pad with the other.   

Haven't tried it, but you should be able to change the key bindings to do this. They are only set to Screensets by default, but X1 lets you set up pretty much whatever key bindings you want to use.

Scott

Thanks.   I tried changing the key bindings a while back .  I can't remember exactly why but it didn't work out - I think it meant, if I revertef to the 8.5 bindings, that I couldn't have the new bindings for Nudge or something.  Or it may have meant 'double-keying' (e.g. Shift + something) which is slow.     For me, Step Record in Staff View (albeit with the workaround for the bug) kinda solves most of the problem anyway (tho still not as good as 8.5).
 

You realise this is a 2 and a half year old thread?-;)

I do almost all of my composing and arranging in Staff View and have since Cakewalk/Sonar had such a thing.
 
I am aware of quirks and bugs, but I have no major trouble in X1.  I jumped from 2.2 to X1 (!) and I don't recall a painful transition.
 
I do not use the Smart tool.  I use the pen most of the time, with the razor/eraser or arrow tools as needed.
 
Although it seems odd, I find it quicker to enter a note with a pen, and if it is not the right duration, right click and change it.  Then, I use the pen to drag copy it whenever I need another note of that duration.  Once you have a quarter, and eighth, and a sixteenth on the screen, it is quick to drag copy whatever you need.  I know that is not ideal, but it works for me.
 
I did open a ticket with Cakewalk one time to tell them that the note duration selection thing didn't work right.  They were very polite but said they thought it worked and asked for a video.  I never followed up because it didn't bother me that much.