Deisel401rs
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MIDI velocity minimum
Hi everyone. Hope all is well. Am using SD3 and MIDI piano roll to program drum trax. One note at a time. . . . When i set any drum notes' volume below 75 , the note fades in color as though telling me its a "ghost" note. Is there a "minimum" velocity or volume setting that i may have accidentally changed somewhere in the program ? Still using SPE 8.5.3. Been creating drum trax this way for quite a while and have never run into this problem. Appreciate any suggestions. Thanx. 
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Chappel
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Re:MIDI velocity minimum
2011/04/17 00:49:32
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The notes change color to indicate their volume, so higher velocities are darker than lower velocities. Here is what it says in the help file under Piano Roll view/colorize notes by velocity:
"By default, note events in the Piano Roll are colorized based on velocity. Darker shades of the basic track color indicate higher velocities. Lighter shades of the basic track color indicate lower velocities.
This behavior can be bypassed by adding the following INI variable to the WinCake section of Cakewalk.ini (see Cakewalk.ini)"
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Kalle Rantaaho
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Re:MIDI velocity minimum
2011/04/17 06:50:30
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Deisel, do bear in mind that velocity and volume are two different things. Confusing them might lead to sabotaging your mix. Velocity defines which sample in a multilayered sound is triggered. If you trigger a low velocity snare hit it is just a feeble tap, and turning the volume up doesn't change it to a snappy hit. And if you trigger a high velocity hit, it will sound like an explosion even if you turn the volume down.
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Deisel401rs
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Re:MIDI velocity minimum
2011/04/19 09:40:47
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Thanx for responding guys. That was definitely useful info. And now i understand the difference between velocity and volume. But in my drum track, any MIDI note under 75 is inaudible. Thats what made me think there is a setting somewhere that kills the volume at a specific volume level. Still trying to figure it out. If i understand correctly , making an adjustment to the "ini." file would eliminate this feature ? Wouldn't i just want to adjust it to a lower audible setting ?
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Re:MIDI velocity minimum
2011/04/19 09:54:39
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No. If a particular kit piece is inaudible at a velocity of 75, then changing the .ini parameter won't affect this at all. You'll just see the note it it's full technicolour glory but it still won't be audible.
What type of kit piece is it? I was editing a drum part in BFD last night, and snare hits as low as 20 were still just about audible.
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Re:MIDI velocity minimum
2011/04/19 10:56:34
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Deisel401rs
Thanx for responding guys. That was definitely useful info. And now i understand the difference between velocity and volume. But in my drum track, any MIDI note under 75 is inaudible. That's what made me think there is a setting somewhere that kills the volume at a specific volume level. Still trying to figure it out. If i understand correctly , making an adjustment to the "ini." file would eliminate this feature ? Wouldn't i just want to adjust it to a lower audible setting ?
Several things can effect how loud a note sounds. The note's velocity, the fader position of the Midi track the note is on, the fader position of the audio track the soft synth is using to output its sounds, the trim control position on the audio track the synth is using, volume settings on the soft synth itself, fader/trim position on buses the synth's audio track is using, etc. Your problem may not be velocity. Have you added any controllers to either the synth's midi or audio tracks? cc#7 is volume and cc#11 is expression. Using either of those can have a drastic effect on the actual volume of the note.
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Deisel401rs
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Re:MIDI velocity minimum
2011/04/19 16:45:25
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I'm using the regular dry studio kit in Session Drummer3 and the piano roll to manually input 1 midi note at a time. Have added no controllers. Doing it the simplest and most tedious way to make each note of the kit as dynamic as possible. Should probably get used to the step sequencer..........thanks folks
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