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2011/04/18 15:15:58 (permalink)

a simple question

Is the US Debt (percentage wise) the same as a household making $200K/year with a $800K or a $10M home mortgage?
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    jamesg1213
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    Re:a simple question 2011/04/18 15:34:58 (permalink)
    I dunno.

    But..if every country in the world has a national debt..then who's doing the lending?

     
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    Re:a simple question 2011/04/18 15:38:20 (permalink)
    To me its the same...I can't imagine either one.

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    Re:a simple question 2011/04/18 15:58:30 (permalink)
    Bapu - I think it's the equivalent of someone making $200k having $190k in debt. The current US Debt level is about 95% of GDP.

    James - here is the answer for the US:

    The U.S. debt is over $14 trillion, and is the sum of all outstanding debt owed by the Federal Government. Nearly two-thirds is the public debt, which is owed to the people, businesses and foreign governments who bought Treasury bills, notes and bonds. The rest is owed by the government to itself, and is held as Government Account securities. Most of this is owed to Social Security and other trust funds, which were running surpluses. These securities are a promise to repay these funds when Baby Boomers retire over the next 20 years.
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    Re:a simple question 2011/04/18 16:10:41 (permalink)
    Or if you measure it based on total debt vs. federal tax revenue, it would be like someone making $200k having about $1 Million in debt.
    post edited by dlogan - 2011/04/18 16:12:18
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    Re:a simple question 2011/04/18 16:15:20 (permalink)
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    Bapu - I think it's the equivalent of someone making $200k having $190k in debt. The current US Debt level is about 95% of GDP.

    Than based on that analogy, I could theorize the US is better off than the average Californian. If the average Californian makes $75K/yr, they are on average in debt for well over $200K (being a salary to mortgage "estimate" by me).
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    Re:a simple question 2011/04/18 16:17:35 (permalink)
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    Or if you measure it based on total debt vs. federal tax revenue, it would be like someone making $200k having about $1 Million in debt.

    Ok, that sounds abysmal.


    Your other measurement appeared more optimistic.


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    Re:a simple question 2011/04/18 17:01:03 (permalink)
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    I dunno.

    But..if every country in the world has a national debt..then who's doing the lending?


    China.

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    Re:a simple question 2011/04/18 17:14:32 (permalink)
    Here are the top five or so
    China          1.1 Trilion
    Japan           800 billion
    UK                300 billion 
    OPEC            220 Billion
    Brazil            195 billion

    Out of a total of 3.2 Billion in US Govt notes out.  So foreign holders of US Treasury Securities (ONLY - not including other gov't debt such as in muni) China holds 1/3rd of it.  

    Source: US Treasury  
    http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/data-chart-center/tic/Documents/mfh.txt




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    Re:a simple question 2011/04/18 17:17:03 (permalink)
    This is my favorite.  It is very scary. 

    http://www.usdebtclock.org/


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    Re:a simple question 2011/04/18 17:22:45 (permalink)
    http://www.usdebtclock.org/world-debt-clock.html

    This shows who is a borrower.  And if you look at places where external debt is very low, tehn they are likely the lenders.  

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    Re:a simple question 2011/04/18 20:02:57 (permalink)
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    But..if every country in the world has a national debt..then who's doing the lending?
     
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    Re:a simple question 2011/04/18 20:18:41 (permalink)
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    But..if every country in the world has a national debt..then who's doing the lending?
     
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    Re:a simple question 2011/04/18 20:36:52 (permalink)
    Other than a cell phone bill I need to pay, I am out of debt (as of last Friday) for the first time since I was 15 (when I was first given a credit card).  Even when my credit cards were at zero balances, I still owed for houses and cars.

    It is a liberating feeling...  I'd celebrate, but I can't afford that right now.  Heh...

     
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