Interleave and Phase widgets

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2011/04/24 14:39:13 (permalink)

Interleave and Phase widgets

How do I get the Interleave and Phase widgets to appear in the normal track control pane? At the moment I can only reach them through the inspector or the console view.
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    brundlefly
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    Re:Interleave and Phase widgets 2011/04/24 15:01:44 (permalink)
    A number of people have mentioned wanting these the track widgets back. You'll want to file a formal feature request to make it more probable that Cakewalk agrees to restore them.
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    Re:Interleave and Phase widgets 2011/04/24 16:04:41 (permalink)
    So it isn’t me being stupid and missing anything, you are saying that they can’t be displayed in the track control pane at all! I think that is a pretty basic omission on Cakewalk’s part. I certainly will put in a request to have them back.
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    Re:Phase and Stereo buttons on tracks 2011/04/25 10:08:48 (permalink)
    You can't move those buttons. They are available in the Inspector and Console view only.

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    Re:Interleave and Phase widgets 2011/04/25 10:25:35 (permalink)
    Nope you're not missing anything. It really is a bizarre design choice on Cakewalk's part. Please do put in a feature request to get them put back. The more of us who do, the likelier it is that it will happen.
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    Re:Interleave and Phase widgets 2011/04/25 10:47:40 (permalink)
    tarsier


    Nope you're not missing anything. It really is a bizarre design choice on Cakewalk's part. Please do put in a feature request to get them put back. The more of us who do, the likelier it is that it will happen.


    Yep.... bizarre design choice at least.... unacceptable indeed....!

    As with MANY other absurd omissions\changes, due to the silly "uncluttered" GUI campaign (Track Header's tools, Control Bar's "off-screen"\unusable modules, absurd multi-clicks-needing so-called "Smart tools", not that smart at all...)......!!!

    C'mon Cakewalk.... put things BACK at their right places....  before it's too late.... 



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    Re:Interleave and Phase widgets 2011/04/25 11:03:25 (permalink)
    gothic.angel

    C'mon Cakewalk.... put things BACK at their right places....  before it's too late.... 
    I'm sure they will, in X2, after you pay for the upgrade of course.


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    Re:Phase and Stereo buttons on tracks 2011/04/25 12:30:43 (permalink)
    The Interleave and Phase button location issue is already being discussed here:

    http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2289205

    As for External Insert. I don't use it a lot, but have not had issues with it since the big 8.3.1 revision. It has certainly never crashed SONAR.
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    Re:Interleave and Phase widgets 2011/04/25 14:22:28 (permalink)
    Does anyone know how to file a formal request??

    http://www.cakewalk.com/support/contact/featurerequest.aspx
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    Re:Interleave and Phase widgets 2011/04/25 16:05:02 (permalink)
    The end of the world! No phase or interleave button.

    One question how often do you use either of those buttons? Is it something you use every day? If so why?

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    Re:Interleave and Phase widgets 2011/04/25 16:29:34 (permalink)
    John

    The end of the world! No phase or interleave button.

    One question how often do you use either of those buttons? Is it something you use every day? If so why?
    Checking your phase settings is an important part of mixing/master. Especially when double tracking instruments/vocals. Now that it's tucked multiple mouse clicks away, it's a real pain to use this function.

    Same applies to Track Interleave. Plus, Track Interleave is not working right, and again, it's a real pain to have to dig so deep to double check it all the time when there's this big blank empty space staring back at me where it used to be on each track.

    I personally use both settings a lot in every project. At first I thought I could live with it, but as time goes on it get's more annoying to have to hunt for these settings.

    I'm kind of surprised that I have to explain this to you John. Phase and Interleave are very important aspects of mixing/mastering.

    ???

    Thanks,

    Bub

    Edit: Sometimes it looks like they sat an intern down who never used a DAW before and said, ok, these are the things associated with audio tracks, midi tracks, etc ... Your job is to rearrange these and categorize them in a new GUI, and they did it without a clear understanding of what people use the most or a clear sense of logical workflow. When they did that, it discombobulated a lot of things for a lot of people as you can tell by reading the forums since December.


    post edited by Bub - 2011/04/25 16:36:33

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    Re:Interleave and Phase widgets 2011/04/25 16:46:45 (permalink)
    Checking your phase settings is an important part of mixing/master. Especially when double tracking instruments/vocals. Now that it's tucked multiple mouse clicks away, it's a real pain to use this function.
    When did this start?  When has it been necessary to check the interleave or the phase of tracks when we were using tape? How often is it needed now? Why would it change from recording to playback?

    I personally use both settings a lot in every project. At first I thought I could live with it, but as time goes on it get's more annoying to have to hunt for these settings.
    Are you saying you forget where they are located?

    I'm not getting it. I still would like to know why you need to to change the interleave or the phase of a track often enough to need it on the track header?

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    John
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    Re:Interleave and Phase widgets 2011/04/26 00:33:23 (permalink)
    John



    Checking your phase settings is an important part of mixing/master. Especially when double tracking instruments/vocals. Now that it's tucked multiple mouse clicks away, it's a real pain to use this function.
    When did this start?  When has it been necessary to check the interleave or the phase of tracks when we were using tape? How often is it needed now? Why would it change from recording to playback?

    I personally use both settings a lot in every project. At first I thought I could live with it, but as time goes on it get's more annoying to have to hunt for these settings.
    Are you saying you forget where they are located?

    I'm not getting it. I still would like to know why you need to to change the interleave or the phase of a track often enough to need it on the track header?
    Sorry John. I just don't get in to this around and around type of confrontation anymore. The only thing I can suggest is try to re-read my post and read Franks post #17 and maybe you'll start to understand eventually.

    Thanks,

    Bub


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    Re:Interleave and Phase widgets 2011/04/26 02:24:23 (permalink)
    I'm just gonna make a little joke, and (inter)leave it at that. (haha see what I did there.)

    Cakewalk can make a turd and some people will convince themselves it's chocolate and denigrate others for not partaking in it's sweetness.

    done.

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    Re:Interleave and Phase widgets 2011/04/26 02:25:19 (permalink)
    Sorry John. I just don't get in to this around and around type of confrontation anymore. The only thing I can suggest is try to re-read my post and read Franks post #17 and maybe you'll start to understand eventually. Thanks, Bub
    I am not trying to get into anything. I am pointing out that track interleave and track phase are things one would set up and once done left alone. I can see perhaps the need on rare ocasions to readjust them but not as a matter of course and certainly not often. Most DAWs don't have those buttons anyway.

    When you say you routinely use them while mastering it makes one wonder.



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    John
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    Re:Interleave and Phase widgets 2011/04/26 07:23:30 (permalink)
    Ionian


    I'm happy I'm not the only one suffering!  I just upgraded from 8.5 and I'm at a complete loss for words.  
     
    I also noticed the control bar is a mess.

    I also am very upset about removing the phase and the stereo interleave buttons, which I posted about in another thread but was directed here.  

    For the time being, seeing that there's no real advantage to X1, I'm going back to 8.5.   

    Does anyone know how to file a formal request??
    Thanks, 
    Frank
     
     
    TOTALLY agree, Ionian.....
     
    ....that silly Control Bar (with many "off-screen" modules...!!!) above all.......
     
    sure you're NOT alone....

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    Re:Interleave and Phase widgets 2011/04/26 07:33:04 (permalink)

    I'd like to see the phase and stereo interleave buttons return to each track's header.




    post edited by mike_mccue - 2011/04/26 07:36:20


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