Export doesn't catch "ending song tail effect"

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2011/04/24 21:59:14 (permalink)

Export doesn't catch "ending song tail effect"

Hi all,

Most of my tracks are midi composed with soft synths, etc..One of the tracks has a "echo/reverb" tail on the end but when I export it doesn't capture the "tail effect" at the end of the song. Export seems to be cutting off/stopping the song when it encounters the last midi note.  Is there something I'm missing? DO I hae to freeze the midi tracks to audio first maybe??     

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    Re:Export doesn't catch "ending song tail effect" 2011/04/24 22:11:13 (permalink)
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    Hi all,

    Most of my tracks are midi composed with soft synths, etc..One of the tracks has a "echo/reverb" tail on the end but when I export it doesn't capture the "tail effect" at the end of the song. Export seems to be cutting off/stopping the song when it encounters the last midi note.  Is there something I'm missing? DO I hae to freeze the midi tracks to audio first maybe??     

    Thanks.


    Hi, Rockoman - Answering the last part of your post first, I would advise that it's definitely better to bounce to audio first, but maybe not for the reasons you were asking.  Once you have your MIDI tracks recorded to audio, there's a lot more you can do with your mix, beyond what you could do in the MIDI realm - IMHO.

    But the reason for your problem is that you're expecting everything to be automated.  You don't just record some MIDI tracks and then push the button to export your 2-track master (which has hopefully been massaged more than just triggering some synths.) -- When you export, you need to select in the time line what you want exported.  Right now you're only selecting the tracks, the literal length of the clips in those tracks.  That selection stops right at the end of the last clip.  No compensation for niceties like reverb tails.  All you need to do is turn the Grid off, and sweep through in the time line to select the portion you really want to have exported - and what you want is several seconds beyond the end of the last track.  It's easy to determine how far you should go--just play the end of your project, and take note of where the reverb actually dies out--and then give it another second or so for good measure.

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    rockoman
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    Re:Export doesn't catch "ending song tail effect" 2011/04/24 22:19:22 (permalink)
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    Hi, Rockoman - Answering the last part of your post first, I would advise that it's definitely better to bounce to audio first, but maybe not for the reasons you were asking.  Once you have your MIDI tracks recorded to audio, there's a lot more you can do with your mix, beyond what you could do in the MIDI realm - IMHO.

    But the reason for your problem is that you're expecting everything to be automated.  You don't just record some MIDI tracks and then push the button to export your 2-track master (which has hopefully been massaged more than just triggering some synths.) -- When you export, you need to select in the time line what you want exported.  Right now you're only selecting the tracks, the literal length of the clips in those tracks.  That selection stops right at the end of the last clip.  No compensation for niceties like reverb tails.  All you need to do is turn the Grid off, and sweep through in the time line to select the portion you really want to have exported - and what you want is several seconds beyond the end of the last track.  It's easy to determine how far you should go--just play the end of your project, and take note of where the reverb actually dies out--and then give it another second or so for good measure.

    Randy B.


    Thanks A LOT Randy!! Seems simple enough!  I'm not exporting as a "Final Mix"; My intent was always to convert from midi to audio tracks and mix then.. I just needed to get this demo out a.s.a.p to a few people who have been inquiring as to what I have been working on and I wanted to copyright. This is my first time exporting using midi :) Mixing will def. be massaged and a thing of beauty when it comes time!

    Appreciate the help!
    -Rock
    post edited by rockoman - 2011/04/24 22:21:23

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    Re:Export doesn't catch "ending song tail effect" 2011/04/25 05:14:43 (permalink)
    Rockoman - just to add to Randy's excellent advice, what I usually do in situations like this is to simply identify the Midi clip containing the effect tail, then grap hold of the right hand edge of the clip and drag it out so that it encompasses the length of the fade.

    Now, you can just hit ctrl + a (select all) and you'll always pick up the entire song length for exporting.

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