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I guess I told a little fib...
I wasn't going to post anymore pictures of the Tele until it was playable but I had to post these...reason being I don't think many folks get to see something like this. Most every guitar I've owned was shiny...but now I know a big difference. The shine you see, and I apologize for the lack of photography skills, is from the wood. Nothing has been applied other than elbow grease. I sand to 320 grit. Then I switch from sandpaper to 9 "grit pads". They start at 1500 and end at 12000. The pictures are kinda close but not like real. It looks like the wood is layered with glass. Being able to see the whole guitar shine is much different but these shots may still give an idea. Now when I put an oil sealer and oil coats I'm not putting on something to make it shiny. The oil is clear and does have a natural shine, or not depending on how it's applied. The shine is from the wood. Well all this is relatively new to me and I just think that's super cool. No paint and no plastic coating for a shine. I like that. I tried to reflect natural light and interior light. Hope you enjoy.- Michael    
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Re:I guess I told a little fib...
2011/04/26 16:36:18
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Stunning.
I'm real interested in burnishing and scraping as well.
At some point you may realize the finish we consider "traditional" is for sealing while the art of polishing is not necessarily related.
When was sandpaper invented?
best regards,
mike
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Re:I guess I told a little fib...
2011/04/26 16:40:16
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When was sandpaper invented?
When Mooch's butt itched?
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2011/04/26 16:41:19
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BTW, sirriusly, that is some beautiful work Michael.
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Re:I guess I told a little fib...
2011/04/26 16:42:55
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That is quite a natural shine! The wood grain is gorgeous.
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Re:I guess I told a little fib...
2011/04/26 16:43:42
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mike_mccue
Stunning.
I'm real interested in burnishing and scraping as well.
At some point you may realize the finish we consider "traditional" is for sealing while the art of polishing is not necessarily related.
When was sandpaper invented?
best regards,
mike
INTERESTING DISCUSSION ON SANDPAPER AND ITS PRECURSORS HERE "June 14, 1834,Isaac Fischer Jr patents sandpaper " “The first recorded instance of sandpaper was in 13th century China when crushed shells, seeds, and sand were bonded to parchment using natural gum.” here is something interesting Weeks, a mirror smooth surface on wood isn't achieved with sandpaper. The mirror finish comes from shellac, varnish, waxes, oils, etc.Plus steel wool, sand paper, pumice and rottenstone ( http://www.woodcentral.com/russ/finish11.shtml):7. Thin the lacquer to 2/1 ratio of thinner to lacquer, and apply two successive wet coats no more than five minutes apart. Set the piece aside for at least two days. 8. Buff lightly with the steel wool to remove dust, bugs, over-spray, runs, etc. Wet sand with 1000-grit, followed with 1500 and 2000-grit, both lubricated with water. For a rough or brushed on surface, you may have to start at 400 or 600-grit, and work your way up to the finer grits. A couple drops (only) of liquid dishwashing detergent in lukewarm water makes a better lubricant for sanding than water alone. 9. Polish with 4F Pumice that is lubricated with water. Use a piece of felt or a ball of cotton tee-shirt material for polishing pads. Then buff clean with a cotton cloth. 10. Polish the surface with Rottenstone, lubricated with water. 11. Polish one more time with Rottenstone, only this time it is lubricated with mineral oil. 12. Buff with a clean cotton cloth. It may be necessary to wipe with soap and water or mineral spirits to remove all of the oil from the surface. Lacquer will not dissolve in mineral spirits. (
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Re:I guess I told a little fib...
2011/04/26 16:45:33
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INTERESTING DISCUSSION ON SANDPAPER AND ITS PRECURSORS HERE
"June 14, 1834,Isaac Fischer Jr patents sandpaper "
“The first recorded instance of sandpaper was in 13th century China when crushed shells, seeds, and sand were bonded to parchment using natural gum.”
here is something interesting
Weeks, a mirror smooth surface on wood isn't achieved with sandpaper. The mirror finish comes from shellac, varnish, waxes, oils, etc.Plus steel wool, sand paper, pumice and rottenstone (http://www.woodcentral.com/russ/finish11.shtml):7. Thin the lacquer to 2/1 ratio of thinner to lacquer, and apply two successive wet coats no more than five minutes apart. Set the piece aside for at least two days.
8. Buff lightly with the steel wool to remove dust, bugs, over-spray, runs, etc.
Wet sand with 1000-grit, followed with 1500 and 2000-grit, both lubricated with water. For a rough or brushed on surface, you may have to start at 400 or 600-grit, and work your way up to the finer grits. A couple drops (only) of liquid dishwashing detergent in lukewarm water makes a better lubricant for sanding than water alone.
9. Polish with 4F Pumice that is lubricated with water. Use a piece of felt or a ball of cotton tee-shirt material for polishing pads. Then buff clean with a cotton cloth.
10. Polish the surface with Rottenstone, lubricated with water.
11. Polish one more time with Rottenstone, only this time it is lubricated with mineral oil.
12. Buff with a clean cotton cloth. It may be necessary to wipe with soap and water or mineral spirits to remove all of the oil from the surface. Lacquer will not dissolve in mineral spirits.
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I hope Mooch is reading this....
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Re:I guess I told a little fib...
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Re:I guess I told a little fib...
2011/04/26 17:00:50
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Me too.
You could PM him. 
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2011/04/26 17:04:13
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That seems dangerous. I don't want Lew to get jealous.
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Re:I guess I told a little fib...
2011/04/26 17:14:59
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It will be like playing a piece of fine furniture! Shiny is good. 
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Re:I guess I told a little fib...
2011/04/26 17:20:57
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Awesome work. What kind of hardware are you going to be using on this Spacey? I was reading that the bridge can have a drastic effect on the overall sound of the pickups. Here's one article. The article was quoted from Bill Lawrence's website but it looks like it's been removed. <--- Great website btw.
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Re:I guess I told a little fib...
2011/04/26 18:03:32
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Simply gorgeous Michael, planing and sanding was my downfall as a woodworker. I never achieved a shine like you have there on any piece of wood but I understand and appreciate the skill and time it takes to get that shine. Awesome work indeed brother.
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Re:I guess I told a little fib...
2011/04/26 18:27:54
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I love the results of sanding wood, although just thinking about doing it by hand makes my hands and wrists hurts anymore. But the results are a joy to see. Those photos are absolutely stunning. I wouldn't have believed it was possible. I had no idea they have 'sandpaper' from 1500 to 12000. I'm thinking it must be just barely more gritty than regular paper?
Love the pictures...thanks! Maybe I'll work on those stairs some more.
Or maybe not. lol
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Re:I guess I told a little fib...
2011/04/26 18:28:30
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Thanks Bub.
I'll be using the BABICZ Full Contact Hardware Tele bridge and Gotoh locking tuners.
I chose Seymour Duncan pups. Vintage neck and the Jerry Donahue lead.
I agree that the bridge effects tone. It's role is so much more than just tone though.
I believe the one I chose to be top shelf for many reasons. I think you'll be hearing
a lot more about it. I recommend all Tele owners to check this bridge out.
I'm looking forward to installing one of their Strat type tremelos. I'll sure be
ordering one soon.
Thanks Grant! I sure hope your jaw drops when you see it. That Zebra...I cussed it for
weeks....the last few days it was, baby,,,baby...oh yeah...my sweet little zebra..lol
When I tap on this guitar Grant it just sings. I can't wait to hear it. We're down to weeks
and this bird is going to sing. ( oiling eats 2 weeks easy).
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Re:I guess I told a little fib...
2011/04/26 18:29:54
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I was looking for some reference info... the finer grades of sand paper are relatively new.
Prior to their availability the use of polish compounds and rouge was more common.
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Re:I guess I told a little fib...
2011/04/26 19:05:33
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Should auld acquaintance be forgot--hey, who the hell are you guys? X2(X3 pending hardware upgrade), Emulator X2, E-mu 1212M, Virtual String Machine
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Re:I guess I told a little fib...
2011/04/26 19:39:08
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I was looking for some reference info... the finer grades of sand paper are relatively new.
Prior to their availability the use of polish compounds and rouge was more common.
Here is what I use Mike. Janet I can't imagine stairs...."hire" is what comes to mind.
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Re:I guess I told a little fib...
2011/04/26 19:41:17
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Well, yeah, I wouldn't want to use those finishing pads on 14 stairs. :)
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Re:I guess I told a little fib...
2011/04/26 19:49:36
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Well, yeah, I wouldn't want to use those finishing pads on 14 stairs. :)
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You not seen a girl sanding her stairs before?
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2011/04/26 19:58:21
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You not seen a girl sanding her stairs before?
I thought I knew my euphemisms - but that's a new one on me
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You not seen a girl sanding her stairs before?
I thought I knew my euphemisms - but that's a new one on me
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Re:I guess I told a little fib...
2011/04/26 22:02:01
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Properly sanded and conditioned slabs of wood are just soooooo gorgeous. Absolutely beautiful Spacey, ol pal. Stunning.
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Re:I guess I told a little fib...
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My, my this is a thing of incredible beauty!
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2011/04/26 22:14:03
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I sure agree myolpal and Jon....this is my first round
with zebrawood and I can't begin to tell you how it looks.
It changes from point of view and has an...sorry I don't know the word...it's
not iridescence because I think that involves colors.
I understand it's popularity. Sure glad it's a tone wood and can be worked
to this state.
I'm sure anxious to see it with the oil.
Oh...I don't smell it. I don't think I'm use to it, probably just an issue when cutting
or heavy sanding. It is the worst smelling wood so far.
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