What's With the Tude at RME?

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Re:What's With the Tude at RME? 2011/04/28 15:03:04 (permalink)
Not sure about RME, but, IME, in this industry there are a lot of smallish companies doing business without proper dedicated customer service people.

So you get a lot of people doing "support" who should never ever be allowed within a thousand miles of an actual customer - least of all a frustrated one with a (real or perceived) problem. Some people just aren't cut out for customer interaction under difficult circumstances.

Not that that's an excuse or anything.

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Re:What's With the Tude at RME? 2011/04/28 15:08:28 (permalink)
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IMO, there's never any call for a company to be offensive to their customers even when your the one working for the company and the customer is obviously too dumb to know that the power cable must be plugged in.  It may make for funny jokes, but that one pissed off customer will tell dozens of other potential customers (this thread is an excellent example) and the company gets hurt in the end.

A lower-level customer service tech. may think they already have enough customers, but I'm sure the higher-ups won't agree with him!


I agree.  I just suggesting--from my experience--that there could be a way around it.  After all, the important thing is to get our questions answered.

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Re:What's With the Tude at RME? 2011/04/28 15:11:14 (permalink)
It would be very easy to perceive rudeness in a conversation by people of
different cultures.
I heard that it is rude for a man to cross his legs where the soles of the shoe
could be seen.
I sure don't know what I may say that could be taken as rude to some cultures
but I do know when I think they are being rude......I call them a stupid face and
hangup...after all, I don't want to be rude too.

"Intentional" is the key. When that is confirmed everything changes, cultural or not.
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Re:What's With the Tude at RME? 2011/04/28 15:17:28 (permalink)
All this talk about culture is misplaced, because if you're in customer service talking to people from different cultures, it's your job to understand that something you say might be taken wrong.

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Re:What's With the Tude at RME? 2011/04/28 15:20:49 (permalink)
I think that's a great suggestion. 

I read an interesting interview with Erik Schmidt, CEO of Google, about the unique challenges of working with and/or managing technical personnel.  He said that one of his observations was that technical personnel tended to answer specific questions very accurately.  They would answer exactly what was asked, and only what was asked.  They would not provide any additional information, no matter how relevant or critical unless it was specifically requested.  He said that he came to learn that this was not an attempt to be "difficult", but was actually a sign of respect.  He said they assumed that the person asking the questions was seeking specific answers and to provide additional detail that was not requested would be seen as assuming that the other person did not know what they needed to know.  Since a technical person would never ask general questions with no real idea of what they needed to know, they assumed that everyone else thought the same way.  To be asked a general or "unintelligent" question was very frustrating to them since it required more than just a specific answer.

Apologies to Erik and anyone who works at Google for any mis-statements of this point of view.
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Re:What's With the Tude at RME? 2011/04/28 15:39:23 (permalink)
...there is a difference between cultural values and intentional disrespect

This is absolutely true. Problem is, even intentional disrespect is subject to miscommunication due to cultural differences.

I'm sure I've been intentionally insulted more than once in foreign countries but the snub went right over my head. I was once called a "yob" in the UK and had to ask its meaning. Remember when somebody tossed a shoe at dubbya in Iraq? The secret service interpreted it as an assault, as both they and GB were oblivious to the local meaning of the gesture. A good insult is wasted if the recipient does not understand that it's supposed to be an insult.

This is one reason I'm slow to assume that things said to me by foreigners are intentional insults rather than mis-interpretations or mis-translations. Add to that the difficulty of effectively embedding subtle inflections in written text and you have a high probability of mis-read intentions.



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Re:What's With the Tude at RME? 2011/04/28 15:43:52 (permalink)
That's exactly why, before attempting to communicate with one of our British friends, I always watch Dick Van Dyke in Mary Poppins.  It helps me to speak their language.  They really appreciate it.  They call me a Wanker, which is, I'm sure, a term of respect.
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Re:What's With the Tude at RME? 2011/04/28 15:46:33 (permalink)
Adding the B word as an adjective denotes supreme respect...
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Re:What's With the Tude at RME? 2011/04/28 15:48:47 (permalink)
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All this talk about culture is misplaced, because if you're in customer service talking to people from different cultures, it's your job to understand that something you say might be taken wrong.

Tuff job....anything they say will be taken wrong by some.
My experience with verbal support has been with Dell. I wasn't offended and it may be because
I didn't understand a word they said. I too figured it was their job to speak English clearly so I could
understand them. Just not the way it is though.
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Re:What's With the Tude at RME? 2011/04/28 16:19:25 (permalink)
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That's exactly why, before attempting to communicate with one of our British friends, I always watch Dick Van Dyke in Mary Poppins.  It helps me to speak their language.  They really appreciate it.  They call me a Wanker, which is, I'm sure, a term of respect.

And probably a tosspot too.
 
(I've been a dart player for over 30 years including playing against World Champions.  Since most of those that play come from the UK, I think I've heard just about all of those colorful expressions!)

 
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