Is it possible to have a single vertical line placed at a point on the timeline in TV?

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2011/04/28 14:45:16 (permalink)

Is it possible to have a single vertical line placed at a point on the timeline in TV?

Here's what I'm after:  At my commercial studio we mostly produce 30 and 60 second spots.  Now I simply place a marker a few frames before 30 and/or 60 and label them "THIRTY" and "SIXTY".  I know...I'm quite the clever fellow.  But what I'd prefer is to have a very visible vertical line at those points to help me in lining up all my different spot elements to fit time.  Any way to do this??  Again, I don't want a grid...just a single demarcating line.
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    stickman393
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    Re:Is it possible to have a single vertical line placed at a point on the timeline in TV? 2011/04/28 15:04:54 (permalink)
    It would be great if Markers could have the option of extending a line down the entirety of the Track View, wouldn't it?
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    Re:Is it possible to have a single vertical line placed at a point on the timeline in TV? 2011/04/28 15:24:01 (permalink)
    stickman393


    It would be great if Markers could have the option of extending a line down the entirety of the Track View, wouldn't it?


    yes, it would (but not very high on my wish list). There would have to be some way to distinguish them from Now time tho'.

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    Re:Is it possible to have a single vertical line placed at a point on the timeline in TV? 2011/04/28 15:33:16 (permalink)
    Sounds like you're asking for what Vegas does. IMHO it would be a most welcome addition. Send a feature request.   
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    Re:Is it possible to have a single vertical line placed at a point on the timeline in TV? 2011/04/28 16:15:35 (permalink)
    Aim Assist?

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    Re:Is it possible to have a single vertical line placed at a point on the timeline in TV? 2011/04/28 17:37:46 (permalink)
    I guess for now you'll have to move the cursor to the Marker and then slide you clips to line up with that. That's how I line up my audio. It would be nice to have something besides the cursor to use as that line, though, so add me +1 to the feature request.

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    Re:Is it possible to have a single vertical line placed at a point on the timeline in TV? 2011/04/28 20:02:52 (permalink)
    Why not use Snap to Markers?
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    Re:Is it possible to have a single vertical line placed at a point on the timeline in TV? 2011/04/28 20:13:58 (permalink)
    No John,ol pal.  Aim Assist won't do what I need.  I need a permanent fixed place indices that, like stickman alluded to, runs down the entire length of the Track View.  It's no biggie but it sure would be nice for us commercial broadcast guys.  Just another of the many features that are lacking in Sonar for our profession...just like "time of swiped area" and such.  And, yes Seth, ol pal, I'll be glad to make a feature request but what are all those emoticons for??  They seem to say I'm crazily laughing while being sneaky and snarky at the same time.  And don, I dont' want anything to "snap" to a marker...it is just a visual reference.  Thanks for all you guys input.  I guess the answer is actually....no.

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    Re:Is it possible to have a single vertical line placed at a point on the timeline in TV? 2011/04/28 20:25:18 (permalink)
    I use the emoticons so I don't come across as being to serious. That is all. 



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    Re:Is it possible to have a single vertical line placed at a point on the timeline in TV? 2011/04/28 20:30:56 (permalink)
    This is a great idea, and the line could be color coded to differentiate it from the grid.

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    Re:Is it possible to have a single vertical line placed at a point on the timeline in TV? 2011/04/28 20:43:56 (permalink)
    Hey Yorolpal,  I just had a thought,  might work for ya,  might not.
    I score to picture all the time and I use streamers to let me know when music starts and when it stops.  The streamers are 2 second lines that move across the picture.  I create them in Sony Vegas by overlapping 2 seconds then putting a page roll in the picture as a transition.  At the end of the show my streamer moves top to bottom.  They help me a lot, especially at the end of a segment.  Before i started using them my "tails"  use to hang too long.
     
    I posted a Youtube example you could use.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbjtJ7A7PUM

    If you are doing radio you could still have this play and visual see when to stop. 
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    Re:Is it possible to have a single vertical line placed at a point on the timeline in TV? 2011/04/29 10:45:18 (permalink)
    That's a great idea for when scoring to video Jimbo, ol pal.  I'll remember that next time I do.  Still tho what I'm looking for is just a single vertical line running down the entire length of the Track View that can be placed anywhere on the timeline as a visual demarcator.  Like Seth suggested, I should just make a feature request.  Although I can't think of a single thing I've ever requested over lo these many years that has ever been implemented:-)

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    Re:Is it possible to have a single vertical line placed at a point on the timeline in TV? 2011/04/29 12:14:02 (permalink)
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    That's a great idea for when scoring to video Jimbo, ol pal.  I'll remember that next time I do.  Still tho what I'm looking for is just a single vertical line running down the entire length of the Track View that can be placed anywhere on the timeline as a visual demarcator.  Like Seth suggested, I should just make a feature request.  Although I can't think of a single thing I've ever requested over lo these many years that has ever been implemented:-)

    I'll shoot the devs a quick email. This feature is something I use in Vegas all the time, so I personally see the benefit of it. 
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    Re:Is it possible to have a single vertical line placed at a point on the timeline in TV? 2011/04/29 12:33:23 (permalink)
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    That's a great idea for when scoring to video Jimbo, ol pal.  I'll remember that next time I do.  Still tho what I'm looking for is just a single vertical line running down the entire length of the Track View that can be placed anywhere on the timeline as a visual demarcator.  Like Seth suggested, I should just make a feature request.  Although I can't think of a single thing I've ever requested over lo these many years that has ever been implemented:-)

    I'll shoot the devs a quick email. This feature is something I use in Vegas all the time, so I personally see the benefit of it. 

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    Got ya Dude!   How about we do it like this?

     
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    Re:Is it possible to have a single vertical line placed at a point on the timeline in TV? 2011/04/29 12:35:45 (permalink)
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    That's a great idea for when scoring to video Jimbo, ol pal.  I'll remember that next time I do.  Still tho what I'm looking for is just a single vertical line running down the entire length of the Track View that can be placed anywhere on the timeline as a visual demarcator.  Like Seth suggested, I should just make a feature request.  Although I can't think of a single thing I've ever requested over lo these many years that has ever been implemented:-)

    I'll shoot the devs a quick email. This feature is something I use in Vegas all the time, so I personally see the benefit of it. 

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    Got ya Dude!   How about we do it like this?

     
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    Re:Is it possible to have a single vertical line placed at a point on the timeline in TV? 2011/04/29 12:46:04 (permalink)
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    That's a great idea for when scoring to video Jimbo, ol pal.  I'll remember that next time I do.  Still tho what I'm looking for is just a single vertical line running down the entire length of the Track View that can be placed anywhere on the timeline as a visual demarcator.  Like Seth suggested, I should just make a feature request.  Although I can't think of a single thing I've ever requested over lo these many years that has ever been implemented:-)

    I'll shoot the devs a quick email. This feature is something I use in Vegas all the time, so I personally see the benefit of it. 

    Development to Seth:
     
    Got ya Dude!   How about we do it like this?

     
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    Re:Is it possible to have a single vertical line placed at a point on the timeline in TV? 2011/04/29 13:05:01 (permalink)
    Now why didn't I think of that????:-)

    And thanks Seth, ol pal.  Not to pile on or anything but ya might wanna mention also to the DEVs (does that stand for "devils":-) that us broadcast fellers REALLY NEED "time of swiped area" more than just about anything. 

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    Re:Is it possible to have a single vertical line placed at a point on the timeline in TV? 2011/04/29 13:06:21 (permalink)
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    Now why didn't I think of that????:-)

    And thanks Seth, ol pal.  Not to pile on or anything but ya might wanna mention also to the DEVs (does that stand for "devils":-) that us broadcast fellers REALLY NEED "time of swiped area" more than just about anything. 

    I have. 
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    Re:Is it possible to have a single vertical line placed at a point on the timeline in TV? 2011/04/29 13:14:32 (permalink)
    The secret is the slow drying white out so you can wipe it off and re-pain at will.

     
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    Re:Is it possible to have a single vertical line placed at a point on the timeline in TV? 2011/04/30 08:47:45 (permalink)
    What a great Idea... I would love to see markers for arranging color coded , let say for instance every 4 bars you have blue markers every 2 bars red, So it would be something like 1-1 would have a blue line such as aim assist but colored with a marker flag on top, then the 2-1 would have a red flag then 3-1 back to blue, ect also have a menu where you would be able choose the interval and colors, also if so , if you find the aim assist line to be annoying then the time line would consist of just colors,, I would find this so helpful when arranging , I get lost so many times where I'm at in the song that I end up having to insert measures ... GReat Great Idea!!! My sorta work around was I made a template with markers at every 4 bars,although the time line is very busy looking now.. It works but not pretty looking.. 

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    Re:Is it possible to have a single vertical line placed at a point on the timeline in TV? 2011/04/30 09:47:32 (permalink)
    Yorolpal - Should the vertical marker be tied to a MIDI position or at an absolute time position?  If you had a 30 second marker tied to midi and you change the tempo it wouldn't be 30 seconds anymore.   I would think you'd want to have the marker be at an absolute time.  Then you would have flexibility to add a measure, change the meter, change tempos, etc. without affecting the marker. 
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    Re:Is it possible to have a single vertical line placed at a point on the timeline in TV? 2011/04/30 10:41:02 (permalink)
    Yes, at an absolute time.

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    Re:Is it possible to have a single vertical line placed at a point on the timeline in TV? 2011/04/30 14:12:57 (permalink)
    absolutely
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