how to turn a stereo grove clip to mono.

seems like when i put the smart tool fade on it.it fades on side faster than the other,so i figure i will go mon.

Actually just looked in the manual track view > clips > convert to mono.

chuckebaby


seems like when i put the smart tool fade on it.it fades on side faster than the other,so i figure i will go mon.

You're talking about a MIDI clip apparently, since you're using the smart tool - If you need the clip to fade, I think you should use an envelope on either the synth audio out track, or on the mixed down track, rather than trying to fade the MIDI.

EDIT:  Charlie, I might be confused about what you're doing exactly, because your subject line refers to a stereo groove clip.  MIDI clips aren't stereo or mono per se, it depends on what synth they're driving.

RB

chuckebaby


im using a audio clip sample from smart loops..i turned it into a groove clip so i could drag it to repeat..at the end of 4 measures i want to fade it evenly on both track(right and left of this stereo clip)but i cant..cause when i grab it from the bottom of the clip w.smart tool it makes a fade from left to right..meaning the left side deminishes before the right side.

Oh, OK, so it's an audio clip.-- Are you saying that you can hear it fading from left to right, or are you going just by what you're seeing?  The fade handle you're talking about superimposes over the clip, and of course moves left to right, but it's not causing a panning action to happen at the same time.

I'll tell you, I hardly ever use the fades available on clips.  You can control fades more accurately and in more detail with an actual volume envelope on the track - Try that.

RB

chuckebaby

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chuckebaby


im using a audio clip sample from smart loops..i turned it into a groove clip so i could drag it to repeat..at the end of 4 measures i want to fade it evenly on both track(right and left of this stereo clip)but i cant..cause when i grab it from the bottom of the clip w.smart tool it makes a fade from left to right..meaning the left side deminishes before the right side.

Oh, OK, so it's an audio clip.-- Are you saying that you can hear it fading from left to right, or are you going just by what you're seeing?  The fade handle you're talking about superimposes over the clip, and of course moves left to right, but it's not causing a panning action to happen at the same time.

I'll tell you, I hardly ever use the fades available on clips.  You can control fades more accurately and in more detail with an actual volume envelope on the track - Try that.

RB

i like your idea and im on it..but what your saying is even though i turned this clip into a groove clip its still an audio clip?..are groove clips only midi clips randy?..p.s.-thanks for the lesson bro.

Hi, Charlie - Well, groove clips can be either MIDI or audio.  They still have the same visual differences of regular MIDI or audio clips, so you can tell by looking if you're not sure - But of course a MIDI groove clip is only going to work in a MIDI track, an audio groove clip in an audio track.  So, no, groove clips aren't MIDI - they're either MIDI or audio which stay synced with your tempo and can be dragged out to repeat as long as you want.

And go ahead and use a volume envelope for your fade - If it's really an audio clip, you can do the volume envelope right there.  If it's a MIDI clip, you'd either need to bounce to track, or apply the volume envelope on the audio track that's connected to the MIDI track.

Randy B.

chuckebaby


im using a audio clip sample from smart loops..i turned it into a groove clip so i could drag it to repeat..at the end of 4 measures i want to fade it evenly on both track(right and left of this stereo clip)but i cant..cause when i grab it from the bottom of the clip w.smart tool it makes a fade from left to right..meaning the left side deminishes before the right side.

Sorry I'm late to this thread but I just want to understand. On my system every loop I grab from Smart loops is already a groove clip which I think is why they call it Smart 'Loops' so my first question is why (or even how) would you turn a groove clip from Smart Loops (which is already a groove clip) into a groove clip?

My second question is why (or again how) would you grab the clip from the 'bottom' to create a fade when fades are created by grabbing the clip from the 'top' corner?

Third thing. When you create a fade, the line that's showing the fade does indeed move from right to left or left to right but each channel of a stereo track is effected the same. It doesn't diminish the left channel before the right channel or vice versa. Check the wave form and it will show the same reduction across both channels of the stereo track. So you might be fixing a problem that doesn't exist?

Last thing. If you grab a Loop from Loop Masters (or whatever groove clip you choose and remember it's already a Groove Clip) and drag that clip out for let's say 8 repetitions all you have to do is bounce those 8 reps to clip, which will create a single clip, grab the top corner to create your fade as fast or slow as you'd like. Not as much control as a volume envelope but super simple and easy to control.

chuckebaby


i cant even explain the mess i had made..so all is good now..the clip i grabed would not repeat itself..so maybe it wasnt a smart loop.i swear it was..when i right clicked it to enable groove clip looping it was fine..then the fade was from the top corner..the rest just forget it..please chaulk this one up to operator error.

Glad it worked out, Chuck - Larry "HumbleNoise" has give you a lot of good feedback too.

Note - in this last post you said you right clicked to enable the imported clip as a groove clip-- What you did was turn it off.  It was already a groove clip, so when you clicked the Groove Clip button, you were actually disabling it, not enabling it.  All you need to do is bring groove clips in and start using them.

One more tip - You can tell from looking if a clip is grooved or not - Regular clips have square corners, Groove Clips have rounded corners.

Carry on!

Randy B.