pianodano
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tracking total time spent on project
Does anyone know if Sonar "tracks" and stores the cumulative total time spent on a project since it's creation? By this I mean all time the project is open, editing, tracking and across all saves, save as etc on the project. If it does, I can't find where it's hidden. I ask this because it would be a real help in tracking time spent on a project for billing purposes.
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Re:tracking total time spent on project
2011/05/08 08:20:45
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It does have a 'Usage Logger' (under the Help menu). Not used it myself, so can't say if it will be of any use to you.
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osd
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Re:tracking total time spent on project
2011/05/08 11:01:21
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Under Project > Info. In the upper right corner is a button called File Stats. That will tell total editing time, revisions, events, bit depth, pan law, etc.
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Re:tracking total time spent on project
2011/05/08 11:03:24
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Glad this came up. I just noticed some of the pan laws aren't set to what I'd like in some of the projects. Not sure how else I would have noticed.... Cool!
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pianodano
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Re:tracking total time spent on project
2011/05/08 12:14:26
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osd Under Project > Info. In the upper right corner is a button called File Stats. That will tell total editing time, revisions, events, bit depth, pan law, etc. I am aware of file stats but that does not seem to be the "total" time since creation. The project I am now on has about 70 hours time in it yet file stats say total edit time of 40 minutes.
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Re:tracking total time spent on project
2011/05/08 12:39:43
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That's strange. They define editing time as "The total time you’ve had the project open, from the time it was created to the last time it was saved. This does not include time spent editing the project since you last saved it. If you want to update this value, save the project."
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pianodano
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Re:tracking total time spent on project
2011/05/08 12:44:23
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Like most things in the DAW world I suppose. It now says that it was created May 7 and shows it's revision 15. But the project was created nearly 6 weeks ago and has gone thru various saves and save as. ugh.
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Re:tracking total time spent on project
2011/05/08 13:37:56
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I just did a test over here with a project that had about 8 hours of editing time. I did a save and the editing time was updated as I expected. I did as 'save as' and the editing time and revisions were reset to scratch. Could it be that X1 thinks saving with a new file name makes it a new project in terms of editing time? If that's the case, I'm going to do a bug submit. Edit: Tried another test. Took an existing project and went into Windows Explorer and just renamed the project file manually outside of X1. When I opened the renamed project, all audio data AND file stats were intact. Looks like it's one of those situations where it's better to rename projects outside of X1???
post edited by osd - 2011/05/08 13:44:46
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pianodano
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Re:tracking total time spent on project
2011/05/08 20:02:09
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Dang. Yep that's just about what I have observed here too. The time tracking and revisioning is basically useless now. You gotta do a save as every once in a while - and alternate the files - just in case. IT's a bugger for sure.
post edited by pianodano - 2011/05/08 20:03:53
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Re:tracking total time spent on project
2011/05/08 20:11:14
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Ooooh I don't think I want to know how much time I actually spend on a project. I already know it works out to pennies per hour - I don't want to find out that it should really be fractions of a penny per hour. RB
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pianodano
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Re:tracking total time spent on project
2011/05/08 20:19:30
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rbowser Ooooh I don't think I want to know how much time I actually spend on a project. I already know it works out to pennies per hour - I don't want to find out that it should really be fractions of a penny per hour. RB LOL. Yeah that probably why I've been losing my shirt. To think that I've been billing according to what the fricking software said I had invested in time. I have suspected for a long time that Sonar has real timing issues. No pun intended.
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Re:tracking total time spent on project
2011/05/08 20:20:08
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I would use a separate app to track that stuff. Sometimes I bounce outta SONAR or leave it open while I'm lunching. There's gobs of tiny freeware time loggers out there.
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osd
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Re:tracking total time spent on project
2011/05/09 01:19:40
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Freeware can certainly handle time tracking purposes. For those who were counting on the other file stats to come through during a 'save as', (such as revisions)... well not so much. It would be nice to see more stats added, such as transport information: total time playback, total time recording.
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Re:tracking total time spent on project
2011/05/09 16:12:57
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Could it be that X1 thinks saving with a new file name makes it a new project in terms of editing time? If that's the case, I'm going to do a bug submit. That is pretty much the behavior one would expect. Save as new name = new file therefore new statistics. That is the way the creation date is maintained by the OS, and the way editing time is handled by every other program I have used that keeps track of that parameter. To preserve the statistics, one would expect that you could save as old name, then save as new name, then reopen old name and continue working on old name. One would also expect that if one saves a new version as opposed to a new file, the statistics would not reset. Since I do not bill anyone for my time, I have never taken any notice of this property.
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