Sonar X1b Producer/Win 7 X64/Tascam FW 1884 Question

Has anybody run into the following problem with Win 7 64bit, Sonar X1b Producer, and a TASCAM FW 1884:
 
I have followed the Sonar X1/Win7/FW1884 installation instructions at www.deeringamps.com/fw1884 and have been able to play audio through the FW1884 using Windows Media player, and I can see "audio activity" in Sonar X1 by way of the VU meters but I cannot get any audio generated in Sonar X1 to output though the FW 1884 (no FW1184 VU meter activity either).
 
Here is my configuration
 
>Intel i7 Processor i7-870
> Intel Desktop Board DP55WG
> Western Digital 500 Gig hard drives x 2
>8 Gigs Kingston 1333 DDR3 memory
> Windows 7 Ultimate x64
>Sonar X1b Producer (X1a installed first per instructions)
> I cannot recall what my video card is except that it is an NVIDA and I believe I am using Win 7 inbox drivers but I don't rember, and I won't be able to tell until next weekend when I head back over to my studio. I can (and will) use an ATI video card if I have to but I prefer not to because I've never cared for how their drivers were written (no I'm not trying to start a flame war…that's just my professional opinion).
 
I have not yet installed any of my third party plugins, or any other software besides Sonar. I didn't have any problems using Sonar 8.5 Producer on WinXP 32bit but that was on an older Core2 duo system.
 
I am not a gamer (this system is used for nothing but audio production) and I use Intel procs and boards because we get them for a discount. I have no iLok dongle but I do occasionally have a Nexstar NST-280S3 external USB hard drive enclosure hooked up to it.
 
Thanks,
DF

DF, my Intel Core 2 Duo computer and Intel motherboard is not as powerful as yours (matches your older system), but I also now run Windows 7 Pro 64-bit, and SONAR XP1b, and my FW-1884 works fine. 

In Tom's instructions, selecting the Legacy 1334 driver is very important. 

What do you have for a firewire card?  We have found that only firewire cards with a Texas Instrument (TI) chipset are known to be reliable. 

What driver did you use?  1.80 for 64-bit, dated last fall?

Does SONAR list the FW-1884 as available?

Does your FW-1884 Control panel show "In sync"?

riojazz


DF, my Intel Core 2 Duo computer and Intel motherboard is not as powerful as yours (matches your older system), but I also now run Windows 7 Pro 64-bit, and SONAR XP1b, and my FW-1884 works fine. 

In Tom's instructions, selecting the Legacy 1334 driver is very important. 

What do you have for a firewire card?  We have found that only firewire cards with a Texas Instrument (TI) chipset are known to be reliable. 

What driver did you use?  1.80 for 64-bit, dated last fall?

Does SONAR list the FW-1884 as available?

Does your FW-1884 Control panel show "In sync"?

riojazz,
 
My Firewire is a native TI chip. That's what I've had luck with in the past and that's the only thing AFAIK that Intel uses on their motherboards, and my answer is yes to your other three questions as well. It has to be something simple that I am overlooking but for the life of me I don't know what it is.
 
Thanks for the reply and I'll keep you posted once I resolve the issue.
 
DF

I have the same set up as riojazz and X1b purrs for me with the 1884... I've also just recently put together a portable rig with a laptop running Win 7 64 Pro and a FW-1804, which is essentially the 1884 without the sliders... It's working perfectly as well.

Are you trying to open existing projects or starting from scratch?

Have you tried both WDM and ASIO drivers?

If you're running ASIO now, maybe try switching over to WDM and let Sonar rescan your hardware.  This has seemed to correct some unusual behavior for me in the past...  If it fires things up for you again, you can switch back to ASIO afterwards...

Just a quick update and a thank you for all of the replies...Sonar X1 Producer and my Tascam FW-1884 are now playing nice with each other. All I needed to do was the one thing I hadn't tried yet (because never worked well for me in the past) was to switch the "Driver Mode" to ASIO. I will even go so far as to say that my FW-1884 is working better (more features work like they should) then it did when I was using Win XP 32 bit.

Thanks again,
DF

DF,
Good to hear you have it sorted out!
Just a note though...
I have not had any problems with either the WDM or the ASIO drivers. (a bit lower latency with ASIO).
Seems odd there would be an issue with the WDM.

Tom

TomG,
Here we go with a test of the funtions:
Encoders: work just fine. I can't figure out how to scroll through the sends, X1 is ****ed that way; seems like we used to see more sends.
Save: good
Revert/F2: no function I can find
All Safe/F3: good
Clr Solo/F4: good
Marker/F5: no marker
Loop/F6: if you hold the "SET" button "Loop" will loop the current selection
Cut: pulls up the Cut dialog
Del: pulls up the Delete dialog
Copy: pulls up Copy dialog
Paste: pulls up Paste dialog
Alt/Cmd, Shift and Ctrl: I get no function, but I didn't try combining with the keyboard.
Hold the "REC" button and "SEL" a track and you are armed to record.
The EQ controls DO NOT map to ProChannel, its all bassackwards.
Jog wheel works.
Bank works
Locate works
Set + Bank> moves you from Tracks to Busses
Set + <Bank moves you back to Tracks
The only thing I don't like is Sonar does not "move" when you change banks, didn't it used to?
Set in and out will create a seltion
Nudge isn't doing anything for me.
Hope that helps...

Quick update...
Navigating in Console and Track views does work with the up/down right/left keys; but not on the Busses when Busses are active.
8.5 does not follow the bank setting, you have to use the right/left keys, mybad?
Nudge is intermittent, there must be something that activates it, it will come to me.
I do miss having the EQ work, I didn't try putting a Sonitus EQ in the effects bin; I'll have to check it out.
Maybe Cake should have thought this through a bit more, is the "Flagship" control surface working with ProChannel now?

DAmps

DeeringAmps


DF,
Good to hear you have it sorted out!
Just a note though...
I have not had any problems with either the WDM or the ASIO drivers. (a bit lower latency with ASIO).
Seems odd there would be an issue with the WDM.

Tom

Tom,
 
I have never had a problem with the WDM drivers until now. In fact I believe when I first got the FW1884 working a few years back I could not get the ASIO drivers to work at all. No matter, It's purring like a kitten now so I don't care.
FYI I could not have done it without that tutorial you posted so thanks again!

DF, my experience is similar to yours.  I could only use WDM with the FW-1884 and SONAR for years.  ASIO never worked until I just recently tried it again.