Reverb for Vocalist....

need to setup reverb (effects) for recording vocals....want it in headphones for singer; but no reverb (effects) in the recording. Is there a simple way to do this in VS-100 / Sonar Producer.
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Zap!

Thanks M!
that was the answer i was looking for ....will try tonight.
Zap!

hey coda, if i remember right, it was you that pointed this out to me about a month ago in a thread i asked about recording the comp.


http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2283821

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I have to tell you, since that thread I've been tracking with the compressor almost all the time (never the EQ, I just keep that flat). I find the comp has a really nice quality about it. Even though it doesn't give you an indication of the gain reduction, I'm finding the meters in X1 can give you a decent idea of what is happening.

same here, i'm kinda really liking it myself.
it's nice to be able to push a character pre just a little bit more for the extra tone
and not have to worry about excessive transients.

hey zap,
well one of my not-so-favorite-things about the vs100 is the poor metering and lack of any gain reduction metering on the compressors. so due to not having any means of seeing how much gain reduction is taking place or even when the threshold is being reached, it makes for a bit of uncertainty with the comps, at least for me it does.

however, i just recorded a vocal using a condenser (with the 10 db pad on), pop filter right up to the mic and i sang two inches from the pop filter. an outboard pre (g.a.p. '73) into vs channel 3. the pre was turned up a bit in order to get some nice transformer tone and i had the vs100 channel comp set at: thresh -5, ratio 2.8, gain set at '0', attack 0.2 (fastest just to catch the peaks), release 20.

like i said earlier i can't see what kind of compression is taking place, but my track sounded good. it had a nice full, fat wave form that still had some transients, just not tall spikes. the settings above were just ballpark settings, but they seemed to work out pretty good. still had enough dynamics that i used a little bit more compression on pro channel. i'll keep experimenting, but i like it so far.

General Thickening: (this is very similar to what M@ B had suggested)
This approach will add some thickness to any track you are recording (bass, acoustic, vocals, etc....) but will also lower the dynamic range a little. It will work well for any pop style tracks (ie: pop, country, rock, dance, etc...) but not as well on music that requires a lot of dynamic range (classical, jazz, folk, etc...).

Threshold: -4  (lower this level to add more thickness and color. This will also lower your dynamic range)
Ratio: 4:1 (adjust to taste, but this is my favorite spot to work with)
Attack: 0.5 (adjust to song)
Release: 20ms - 50ms (adjust to song)
Output: Adjust as necessary
 
EDIT: The Attack/Release you will notice I say "adjust to song". These settings are what will create a pumping effect. In dance music (and some pop) this is desired, while in rock, country (and usually pop) you want a more natural feel, and no artificial pumping. That is a whole new subject

With popular music, the dynamic range gets squashed at several points of the recording and mix. What this does is color/squash it at the first stage. Keep in mind if you add to much at this stage - you are stuck with it! I will usually add just enough to smooth out the instrument or vocal, but leave room for more compression later.

I would also like to mention that these two tips I just gave would also apply to any other compressor as well, not just the VS-100. Anything that you learn about compression and how you use it can be applied to the VS-100.

now that's some quite impressive sleuth work, if i may say so myself!
i would imagine then, that that would allow the reverb to be recorded when using the sd recorder since it records the main outs.

nice catch coda.

well one of my not-so-favorite-things about the vs100 is the poor metering and lack of any gain reduction metering on the compressors. so due to not having any means of seeing how much gain reduction is taking place or even when the threshold is being reached, it makes for a bit of uncertainty with the comps, at least for me it does.







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