X1 updates and fixes

I've been reading through some of the update threads to help me understand about installing x1a and x1b.

From a lot of the comments, it strikes me that CW should take into account that the software release process has become a modern lab test. It is part of the development process and their company could not function properly without it.

I would suggest that from the initial release of a product until after fixes a, b, and c, that the software should be half price as it is "usable but still very much under development" and the loyal users are the ones that are making that development possible. It is not a process they are capable of doing themselves - as one user pointed out, that with such a diversity of hardware, how would this be possible for CW to do this kind of assessment?

All the more reason why the "U/Dev's - User Developers - and the initial term of development should cost less to purchase, as everyone is now aware that the initial product is not finished, and the company has no intentions of finishing it before they release it. Again, this is a modern development process, not an ambiguity.

Unfortunately, a lot of the comments do point to the fact that Sonar simply just does not finish it's products. It's all interesting as that's what all software companies do - some more that others. I think the term is "being had by the *******s".

I've installed my X1 Essential on a separate drive but I'm not transferring my songs and music over yet, I'll start doing some new stuff on X1 and see how I get on first I think.

Right, off to download X1a and X1b then.  :)

To quote Charlie SHeen ."I've already got your money!" I can't believe I fell for the X1 hype ... NEVER EVER buy new software -- wait until it has been patched!

 
 
Ha ha... me too. I went from 7 to X1.
 
Julien

chuckebaby


....are you really making judgment before you have even used this software?

You read my post right?

I said I had a read around about making updates and then I gave an opinion on what I read. There are plenty of people that are not so happy about paying to be guinea pigs.

From what I read, I think my opinion's valid enough.

And yes, I'll certainly be keeping Reaper on my other drive. Why not?


EDIT: btw, that's $138 in the UK not $69.

Opinions should come from ones personal experience.

+1, which is why I'm surprised CW still hasn't released a demo. I wonder how many other people are holding off until they can try it on their own system and form their own opinion.

-Susan

The software is working great (for me), the company has responded to it's user base and are continuing to do so. What more do you want from them? Alot of companies don't do that at all. I'm proud to be a Cakewalk user and despite some bump's in the road, X1 is an amazing piece of software. My advice would be to get on with it and make some music. 

spanky

Susan G

Opinions should come from ones personal experience.

+1, which is why I'm surprised CW still hasn't released a demo. I wonder how many other people are holding off until they can try it on their own system and form their own opinion.

-Susan

I don't know what kind of system you have, but I too was tentative to upgrade because of literally all of the Bull Sh it being spewed on these forums. I don't have the greatest graphic card--yet I have no problems. I don't have the greatest audio interface--yet I have no problems. I do have a quad core and maybe that helps??? I also have XP and X1 has ran impeccably since I've purchased it.
Why they don't release a demo is beyond me. But for $99 it might be worth the try. I'm glad I did it! X1 made sense to me....it might not make sense to you.....but it made sense to me.

Hi spanky-

I'm not going to upgrade my system right now, especially not just for X1, since I'm running SONAR 8.53, REAPER, and FLS with no problems. $99 is a chunk of change for me in my current situation. Even though I've seen several folks say "it's only $99... go for it!" -- I can't justify it right now unless I can try X1 first.

I think I skipped one upgrade since away back in the Cakewalk for DOS days, and I'm sure CW will survive my passing on this one, but I do find it strange that there's no demo, since I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who wants to try it first. I can almost understand how they expect long-time users to just upgrade automatically, but wouldn't they attract more new users with a demo? I haven't bought any new software without a trial in a long time, no matter how slick the videos look!

-Susan

Susan G

I can almost understand how they expect long-time users to just upgrade automatically, but wouldn't they attract more new users with a demo?

Is that so far away from what I say in my OP?

From a lot of the comments, it strikes me that CW (....and lots of other companies and people) should take into account that the software release process has become a modern lab test. It is part of the development process and their company could not function properly without it.

The demo version is a good idea, but then the company would not be getting paid by it's post-beta U/Dev's would it?

Before I bought X1, I spent a couple of weeks with a full demo of the latest Samplitude.

Is that so far away from what I say in my OP?

? -
That was a rhetorical question in response to spanky's comment; I wasn't addressing anything you said.

-Susan

mikey


"I can almost understand how they expect long-time users to just upgrade automatically, but wouldn't they attract more new users with a demo? "


They would have attracted more people without needing a 200 plus fix patch right out of the gate...


Oops, there I go ; )...  Beat me spank me... Come on Stratypoo tell me again how I keep dragging up old bones 


Right now, X1 is working well for me.... 

mikey,did you ever get jamstix3 going??

edjay


I've been reading through some of the update threads to help me understand about installing x1a and x1b.

From a lot of the comments, it strikes me that CW should take into account that the software release process has become a modern lab test. It is part of the development process and their company could not function properly without it.

I would suggest that from the initial release of a product until after fixes a, b, and c, that the software should be half price as it is "usable but still very much under development" and the loyal users are the ones that are making that development possible. It is not a process they are capable of doing themselves - as one user pointed out, that with such a diversity of hardware, how would this be possible for CW to do this kind of assessment?

All the more reason why the "U/Dev's - User Developers - and the initial term of development should cost less to purchase, as everyone is now aware that the initial product is not finished, and the company has no intentions of finishing it before they release it. Again, this is a modern development process, not an ambiguity.

Unfortunately, a lot of the comments do point to the fact that Sonar simply just does not finish it's products. It's all interesting as that's what all software companies do - some more that others. I think the term is "being had by the *******s".

I've installed my X1 Essential on a separate drive but I'm not transferring my songs and music over yet, I'll start doing some new stuff on X1 and see how I get on first I think.

Right, off to download X1a and X1b then.  :)

Well said.
I've been tearing my hair out ever since buying the upgrade, having had an excellent virtually trouble free experience with Sonar ever since Sonar 2.  I'm bitterly disappointed, especially having also invested in Scott's new book and the Groove 3 training video because I fell for the early vibe that "It's you - you just need to adapt and learn how to use it fully".   Some stuff is just plain broken and prevents me working properly.  Those who think your comments are invalid just haven't encountered the bugs yet.
 
Having wrestled with it for weeks now I will say that overall I prefer it to 8.5 and I've got used to the new features.  I say got used to because I don't regard any of the changes as major breakthroughs for how I work; it's just a giant makeover as far as I'm concerned in order to make the product more familiar to, and attract users of other DAWs. 

Susan G

mikey,did you ever get jamstix3 going??

I was following that too, and it seems he did: http://forum.cakewalk.com/fb.ashx?m=2298845

-Susan

happy for him..i know its frustrating when your trying to get something fixed and you just want to record..i got into a little beef with him on another thread about how buggy the midi is ,though i disagree,i tryed to help him on his jamstix thread.just because i dont agree with him doesnt mean i dont care that he is trying to get his recording going..thats how i roll.honest and sencre people i will go out of my way to help out all the time.arogant people i just ignore.
ive had buggy software before..i know how it is.but call me lucky,ive had no probs with x1.
i did a clean install on drive c:/ and life has been great.

A1MixMan

edjay

A1MixMan

My advice would be to get on with it and make some music. 

Well, I'm glad you took the time out from making music to let me know that. Thanks.

Actually while I was typing that I was also enjoying the very cool Ozone Explained vids over at groove3.com, excellent by the way.
 
Hey edjay, I mean no disrespect. I'm just saying that everyone knows about the problems X1 has had, the good news is that they have been hard at work making it alot better. This is after all a 1.0 release. Nobody should have expected it to be perfect.

Hey thanks, it's been a stressy few days of installations and registrations, that in the end (2nd time round for the kontakt/kore stuff) is all up and working as well as can be I think?

I do feel that the software companies have got some changes coming the more that people - the U/Dev's - realise they're an essential part of the software production process.

It's a good forum, I've already found people helpful in my search for a piano plugin - that's a long story that's just about to bear fruit.

Thanks MM