Audiosnap is giving me Delay

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2011/05/13 17:39:14 (permalink)

Audiosnap is giving me Delay

Hello, again.

I've been doing some post-processing of recorded tracks to fix things like a chord or drum hit being slightly off beat, so I've been using the Audiosnap filter to tweak things around as I need. For the most part, this is working just fine. However, I've been noticing that I'm getting a weird delay effect on a track now and then during playback (in Sonar) after doing this, but not when I export the track.

Any thoughts on what could be causing this? Is this a performance issue, or is the data it puts together for the audio transients getting borked? Anyone run into this and know of a fix? (I've taken to exporting the corrected tracks and importing those back into my project for the actual mixing process, but that isn't really ideal.)

thanks for your time,
CJ

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    steve@psbnoe.wanadoo
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    Re:Audiosnap is giving me Delay 2011/05/14 03:43:38 (permalink)
    Hi, i think you need to select the clip and then the Tracks menu and then select the bounce to tracks option for your Audio snap changes to take effect.

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    Re:Audiosnap is giving me Delay 2011/05/14 12:26:17 (permalink)
    Yes, as Steve suggested... initially AudioSnap using a lower-quality playback algorithm so that you can hear changes in real-time. However, the only way to hear the high-quality results is to bounce the audio to make the AudioSnap changes permanent. That's what happens automatically during export.

    To hear it in the project, select the AudioSnap clip(s) and choose Clips > Bounce to Clip(s) from the Track view menu.

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    mrcjhicks
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    Re:Audiosnap is giving me Delay 2011/05/14 13:06:23 (permalink)
    I see. I was actually okay with the lower-quality algorithm for real-time playback, I just wasn't thrilled about the delay artifact that was occasionally getting introduced. It looks like I'm pretty much required to bounce this type of change though, which in effect causes me to lose a record of the Audiosnap changes I made... which isn't ideal, although I guess it isn't that much of a problem...

    Thanks Steve, thanks Scott.
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    Re:Audiosnap is giving me Delay 2011/05/14 13:08:01 (permalink)
    You could always bounce the entire track to a new track and then archive the original track for safe keeping.

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    mrcjhicks
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    Re:Audiosnap is giving me Delay 2011/05/14 13:23:08 (permalink)
    Yes, I've been basically doing that since I stumbled onto the issue - with the export and all.

    I've run into so many issues on tracks that have an Audio Transient filter that I think I may just need to bounce after changes like has been suggested. Problems I've seen: the delay issue here, the transients not being detected when they should given the threshold, missing picture data... it just seems that Sonar can't operate all that well on clips with an active Audio Transient filter.

    Part of learning the tools is knowing what the limitations are, I suppose.
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