iZotope Ozone and Alloy???

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2011/05/13 20:53:48 (permalink)

iZotope Ozone and Alloy???

Any opinions / problems with Ozone 4 or Alloy as plugs for X1?  Anybody using XP 32 bit XP on a quad core with Sonar X1 and these plugs? Would running these be asking too much for an XP 32 bit Quad core system? It appears that Alloy is a “lite” version of Ozone 4 and more of a track plug, where Ozone 4 is more of a bus and final mix tool. Other than the plugs that come with X1, I really don’t have any pro level tools and was thinking about taking the plunge on these.
 
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    Fog
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    Re:iZotope Ozone and Alloy??? 2011/05/15 19:49:54 (permalink)
    you can demo both if you haven't already.. there is a good guide on their site regarding mastering thats often mentioned here.

    I wouldn't say alloy is a lite version.. they might appear that way but how you approach one / many tracks is different. I don't have alloy as I have other plugins also (I have t-tracks singles), as tempted as I would be to get it, I haven't.

    quad core is decent enough , but it depends what your running it with / your track count.

    lots of companies around , most will offer demos / trials . I've been looking at stuff by melda of late.. www.meldaproduction.com and a few more companies.

    but I liked ozone 3, upgraded to 4
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    Re:iZotope Ozone and Alloy??? 2011/05/15 20:14:12 (permalink)
    I have them both on a Quad Core AMD/X1/32bit/4G ram and I must say, I rarely use Ozone 4.  It is more of a mastering tool and I prefer to master with individual tools.  It is not meant for tracking and can be a system hog if you try to do so.

    Alloy, on the other hand, is very cool.  It can be used for tracking and has very good options and settings within.

    A lot of people here will go to bat for Ozone but it's just a matter of workflow, usability and knowledge of mixing. 

    Try the demos and see if you like the results.
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    Re:iZotope Ozone and Alloy??? 2011/05/15 21:33:45 (permalink)
    Thanks for the feedback on these.

    I decided to also add iZotope RX2 to the pile, so it has been an expensive weekend  

    After seeing the demos on the Ozone, Alloy, and RX2, I am amazed at the capabilities iZotope products offer. I know it is going to be quite a learning curve on all of these, but it should be fun. I have quite a few older copies of tape tracks I pulled into wave files awhile ago and there was all sorts of noise and level problems. Cleaning these up will be a good test bed to put the tools to work. Hope to report back once I get my head wrapped around things.

    Take care,

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    Re:iZotope Ozone and Alloy??? 2011/05/15 22:06:28 (permalink)
    I have O4, running on an Intel i5 chip with XP/32 bit OS.  I don't hesitate to use O4 or O3 in a track. With a processor like i5, the plugs do not use that much CPU power. I have run several in tracks and O4 in the  master all in real time.

    I looked at Alloy but O4 seemed to do the same thing already, so I just stuck with it. I set up custom presets for various starting points for Vocals, Acoustic, etc....

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    Re:iZotope Ozone and Alloy??? 2011/05/18 09:35:59 (permalink)
    O4 on a Q6600 with XP 32bit. Runs fine.

    Also runs fine on my laptop Win Xp 32bit on a duo core T7200.
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    Re:iZotope Ozone and Alloy??? 2011/05/18 13:23:58 (permalink)
    If you're just starting out with 3rd party plugins, I'd also suggest looking at TRacks 3 Deluxe.
    The "single" plugins load individually into any host DAW software.
    You get some really nice souding dynamics/EQ/peak-limiter/etc.
    The Opto compressor, Pultec EQ, and Peak-Limiter are particularly nice.

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    Re:iZotope Ozone and Alloy??? 2011/05/18 13:27:22 (permalink)
    And to my ears, the Fairchild by T-Racks is pretty dern close to the UAD Fairchild (the T-Racks being just a little grittier).

    If I had to lose my UAD Fairchild I would not hate having to use the T-Racks version.
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    Re:iZotope Ozone and Alloy??? 2011/05/18 14:10:57 (permalink)
    If I had to lose my UAD Fairchild I would not hate having to use the T-Racks version.

     


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    Re:iZotope Ozone and Alloy??? 2012/10/17 09:08:24 (permalink)
    Alloy 1 is on sale on KVR for $60. Bargain.
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    Re:iZotope Ozone and Alloy??? 2012/10/17 11:47:07 (permalink)
    I bought Ozone 5 a few months ago after demoing it.  I've yet to explore all this tool can do ... it's VERY deep, versatile, and runs fine under X1 / X2.  You do need a powerful processor to run it on multiple tracks, though -- it can be quite CPU-intensive.
     
    During the demo, the first thing I did was slap it on a full mix I'd been working on.  I hit a preset (something like "Rock / Pop Master") and was immediately struck at the transformation.  A "Wow" moment.  The mix just came alive to a degree that I've rarely experienced from a plugin.  Digging deeper, I found that most of the improvement came from the Multiband Compressor section -- the most versatile compressor I've come across. 
     
    Add to that the extremely versatile (there's that word again) EQ, complete with a fun "matching" feature, the very usable saturation tool, the stereo imaging functions, and the advanced limiter, and you have something that can do just about anything.  Everything, that is, except pretend it's a piece of vintage gear -- that ain't Izotope's thing.  Although it's certainly possible to get a "vintage" sound out of it, you won't see simulated VU meters or shiny knobs.  What you will see are straightforward controls and useful metering with simple graphics. 
     
    I also demoed Alloy and Nectar, but didn't find them quite so compelling -- many of their features overlap, and I found that Ozone did everything that I was looking for.  One of my favorite tools -- if you aren't familiar with it, download the demo and look over the manual.  You may be glad you did.
     
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    Re:iZotope Ozone and Alloy??? 2012/10/18 14:35:13 (permalink)
     I have O4 /O5 and Alloy. I am using a Q8400 Intel and my win7 x64 is only partly modded for DAW work. I chose to keep some things so I can run soundcloud on my DAW and perform a few other tasks on it.

     In my experience with this setup running 12 tracks loaded with plug-ins O4 was better than O5. O5 tended to choke my cpu occasionally depending on what I was running. Alloy is touted as a plug-in for track use, but in my experience it can also hit your cpu pretty good. As I  say these are my experiences with an aging quad core machine running a little bloat. Not unusable in all cases but sometimes the meter gets high. If I were to totally wash my machine I could expect better performance. If you load these plug-ins into a run of the mill computer it might not handle it.

     One other option is to mix a master and bounce it into another Sonar project for mastering with O5.

     Honestly out of my whole plug-in collection Ozone 5 deals the largest hit. Probably long overdue for a faster machine.

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    Re:iZotope Ozone and Alloy??? 2012/10/19 00:26:33 (permalink)
    I have alloy2 with Sonar X2 in 64 bit enviroment. Love it. Alloy is light on CPU but sound great. Alloy is basically a mixer strip with EQ, compressor + gate ,trancient shaper, desser, exciter, limiter. All of this effect in one plugin plus hundreds of instrument and genra specific presets make this very attractive to me.  I tried the demo for 2 days and was hooked.
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    Re:iZotope Ozone and Alloy??? 2012/10/19 08:24:11 (permalink)
    Jim Roseberry


    If you're just starting out with 3rd party plugins, I'd also suggest looking at TRacks 3 Deluxe.
    The "single" plugins load individually into any host DAW software.
    You get some really nice souding dynamics/EQ/peak-limiter/etc.
    The Opto compressor, Pultec EQ, and Peak-Limiter are particularly nice.

    I have a copy of T-Racks Deluxe for sale (I have 2 copies) for $50 and you pay transfer...it IS Deluxe..not single...

    I also have copies of SampleMoog and SampleTron for $30 each ( I have 2 of each now that I bought the
    Total Studio 3 collection)
    PM me and we'll discuss...


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    Re:iZotope Ozone and Alloy??? 2012/10/20 00:00:14 (permalink)
    You should buy them both. iZotope rocks... "HARD!"

    Check them out here.. www.reverbnation.com/rockinrobby

    post edited by The Band19 - 2012/10/20 00:05:14

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