Punch in and out Points?

Let's say you have recorded a great guitar lead but then realize that one note is weak.  You want to punch in just that one note and keep the rest.  The weak note butts up against the previous note and the note after.  There is almost NO time/space between the adjacent notes.  What method do you guys use to zero in on where you want to set punch in and punch out points in such a scenario?

I agree with Frank Haas.. I know that punching in and out is a feature in Sonar but using track layers is much easier in my opinion!

I'd just insert an empty track adjacent to the existing guitar solo, and record another quick take of the offending note.  I'd record a little pre/post the weak note... to be sure you've gotten into the zone/vibe/spirit/moment.
 
I'd then snap the new clip's start point to a bar (for easy/accurate movement)... and drop it into the full solo track.
Now, as was mentioned, you'll want to slip-edit (adjust the start/end points) the replacement note so it fits into the original solo... using cross-fades at the transition points (to ensure seemless splices).
 
You could also use loop recording to nab multiple takes (each in a separate lane)... then use the Mute tool to comp the best bits.
 
 

So, it sounds like the answer to "punch in and out" is don't use it.

 
FWIW, Punch Recording works OK here...  
I think the various responses are the result of being able to achieve the same goal numerous ways. 
No right/wrong answer... just depends on how you like to work

Well, yes, punch in works, however, my question still stands.  When specifically using punch in, what method do you guys use to select the exact start and stop points?  For instance, do you use Scrub...if so, how, or do you use another method for setting the start and stop points?

i think punch in on x1 is the best ive seen in any daws.the timeline right click..the stop hit record starting on a four count is flawless..2 out of 100 times it crackes..thats really good,

Bristol_Jonesey


I too use Punch for correcting small errors, and I've also used the V-Vocal approach where it's a single note (as opposed to a chord) that's fouled up.

You can get as surgical as you like inside Sonar - zoom WAY in to isolate the wrong bit.

It helps to have your Scroll Lock on here to prevent the display from moving. At those resolutions, the wrong bit will flash past in the blink of an eye.

That's exactly how I'd do a punch in most cases, but, what do you do in the case where notes are so close together it's imposible to "see" exactly where the start and end points are?

That's exactly how I'd do a punch in most cases, but, what do you do in the case where notes are so close together it's imposible to "see" exactly where the start and end points are?

 
If the offending note's start point can't be isolated, I'd opt for a different punch point (backup just a little and find a breakpoint between notes)
 

amiller


OK, guys...
 
'Lots of great and useful answers...thanks.  I guess I'm just moaning about the fact that SONAR's scrub function doesn't allow me to surgically find an exact punch point by using my ears.

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