jsg
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Sluggish Time Display with Audio
When I play back audio in X1, the time display has a long lag at the start of playback, about 1 sec. It happens no matter where I start the playback in the piece. It does not happen with just MIDI. This cannot be normal. Does anyone know anything about this issue? Thanks in advance, Jerry
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Re:Sluggish Time Display with Audio
2011/05/21 18:10:22
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Do you mean there's just a delay between pushing play and sound starting, or are you saying the now time display remains a second off throughout playback--? If you're talking about just a slight delay before the project starts playing, that sounds pretty normal to me. As my projects get larger, I sometimes have to adjust the "prepare with X buffer" setting in the Audio dialogue, until I'll get up to 3 or 4 seconds of delay. Randy B.
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Re:Sluggish Time Display with Audio
2011/05/21 18:19:46
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this can be corrected with your playback buffers in queue option.try changing it from 512(default)to 256..dont go to low or to high or you will notice sluggish drop outs. try going higher or lower sometimes to find the right queue. it in edit/preferences/playback. i noticed a big change when i bought a better soundcard,but it worked for me before. remeber only change the one for now(playback buffers in queue/not record buffers in queue. its also in the help files.i suggest you get a quick looksie at it and read up you issue if you really want to optimize it.
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Re:Sluggish Time Display with Audio
2011/05/21 18:23:57
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If the time line is running in jerky motion as well then it may be that you just hit the PAUSE button by accident somewhere along the line. You get both the delay in start plus jerky motion.
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Re:Sluggish Time Display with Audio
2011/05/21 18:35:38
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lorneyb2 If the time line is running in jerky motion as well then it may be that you just hit the PAUSE button by accident somewhere along the line. You get both the delay in start plus jerky motion. haaa...good one
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Re:Sluggish Time Display with Audio
2011/05/21 18:47:43
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When I play back audio in X1, the time display has a long lag at the start of playback, about 1 sec. It happens no matter where I start the playback in the piece. It does not happen with just MIDI. Sounds to me like the metronome count-in is enabled. There have been some metronome bugs in X1, so first make sure you're running the latest version. Then, even if you're just playing back, set the metronome count-in to 0. See if that solves your problem.
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jsg
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Re:Sluggish Time Display with Audio
2011/05/21 18:58:59
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I mean that there is a very noticeable delay between when I start playback and when the display of measures, beats and ticks begins. Also, during playback there is some delay at times as well. Keep in mind I am testing X1 LE on my office computer, with consumer sound card. I do not test software on my DAW in my studio, which has high-end pro soundcards. So, in fairness, this may be the issue. The thing is, with Sonar 7, on the same non-pro system in my office, there is no visual delay of any kind, with either audio or midi. Finally the time line that traces the "now time" is also very jerky, behavior that I also do not notice with Sonar 7 and the same hardware. If I am satisfied that X1 is up to professional production standards, I will replace Sonar 7 with Sonar X1 producer in my studio. I am in no hurry, as usual, as I've long had a policy of not using version 1.0 software of any kind. Best, Jerry Gerber www.jerrygerber.com rbowser Do you mean there's just a delay between pushing play and sound starting, or are you saying the now time display remains a second off throughout playback--? If you're talking about just a slight delay before the project starts playing, that sounds pretty normal to me. As my projects get larger, I sometimes have to adjust the "prepare with X buffer" setting in the Audio dialogue, until I'll get up to 3 or 4 seconds of delay. Randy B.
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lorneyb2
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Re:Sluggish Time Display with Audio
2011/05/21 19:05:49
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Again as in my post above hit the PAUSE button and see if that solves it.
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Re:Sluggish Time Display with Audio
2011/05/21 19:12:53
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lorneyb2 Again as in my post above hit the PAUSE button and see if that solves it. I am assuming you are joking. The pause button stops playback. I doubt this issue has anything to do with the pause button. To the person who suggested I change the playback buffer settings, I've tried that and no success. As I said no such problem exists with Sonar 7. Also, to the user who suggested changing metronome settings, did that too, but no difference. So, to those people who are running X1 producer with the latest updates and pro sound cards, you're not having this issue with the time display and the "now time" marker being sluggish and inaccurate? Best, Jerry www.jerrygerber.com
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Re:Sluggish Time Display with Audio
2011/05/21 19:15:10
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jsg lorneyb2 Again as in my post above hit the PAUSE button and see if that solves it. I am assuming you are joking. The pause button stops playback. I doubt this issue has anything to do with the pause button. To the person who suggested I change the playback buffer settings, I've tried that and no success. As I said no such problem exists with Sonar 7. Also, to the user who suggested changing metronome settings, did that too, but no difference. So, to those people who are running X1 producer with the latest updates and pro sound cards, you're not having this issue with the time display and the "now time" marker being sluggish and inaccurate? Best, Jerry www.jerrygerber.com Jerry, he was talking about the Pause/Break key on your computer keyboard. Sluggish start up time is usually when your buffer in your Audio settings is higher than it needs to be, as per my earlier reply. Randy B.
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jsg
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Re:Sluggish Time Display with Audio
2011/05/21 19:22:36
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rbowser jsg lorneyb2 Again as in my post above hit the PAUSE button and see if that solves it. I am assuming you are joking. The pause button stops playback. I doubt this issue has anything to do with the pause button. To the person who suggested I change the playback buffer settings, I've tried that and no success. As I said no such problem exists with Sonar 7. Also, to the user who suggested changing metronome settings, did that too, but no difference. So, to those people who are running X1 producer with the latest updates and pro sound cards, you're not having this issue with the time display and the "now time" marker being sluggish and inaccurate? Best, Jerry www.jerrygerber.com Jerry, he was talking about the Pause/Break key on your computer keyboard. Sluggish start up time is usually when your buffer in your Audio settings is higher than it needs to be, as per my earlier reply. Randy B. Ah, yes, I know about that one. In Sonar 7 there is an indicator at the bottom of the screen when the keyboard pause button is on, that definitely affects playback. But in this case, turning it on makes matters much worse, at that point the visual display delay is far, far worse. Also, I don't see the "P" indicator in X1 that tells the user that the button is on... Jerry
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Re:Sluggish Time Display with Audio
2011/05/21 19:24:34
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jsg rbowser jsg lorneyb2 Again as in my post above hit the PAUSE button and see if that solves it. I am assuming you are joking. The pause button stops playback. I doubt this issue has anything to do with the pause button. To the person who suggested I change the playback buffer settings, I've tried that and no success. As I said no such problem exists with Sonar 7. Also, to the user who suggested changing metronome settings, did that too, but no difference. So, to those people who are running X1 producer with the latest updates and pro sound cards, you're not having this issue with the time display and the "now time" marker being sluggish and inaccurate? Best, Jerry www.jerrygerber.com Jerry, he was talking about the Pause/Break key on your computer keyboard. Sluggish start up time is usually when your buffer in your Audio settings is higher than it needs to be, as per my earlier reply. Randy B. Ah, yes, I know about that one. In Sonar 7 there is an indicator at the bottom of the screen when the keyboard pause button is on, that definitely affects playback. But in this case, turning it on makes matters much worse, at that point the visual display delay is far, far worse. Also, I don't see the "P" indicator in X1 that tells the user that the button is on... Jerry Also, I just did an A-B comparison between Sonar 7 and X1, same audio settings, same buffer settings, same audio file, same everything. Sonar 7 has no display issues at all, X1 has severe display issues. Weird....I checked the updates and I don't think I saw anything about this... Best, Jerry
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