tracker0945
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Windows7 soundcard recognition
Hi all, it's been a while since I have posted on here but I hope someone can help.
I have not been able to find any reference to my problem through the search feature.
I installed my copy of Sonar 7 from my desktop to my new laptop and can not get it to recognise any sound card installed. I am running Windows7 and the drivers I have located are Conexant Smart Audio HD plus a 4 part version of NVIDIA High Definition Audio.
I had no problems with it when it was on the desktop unit which was also Windows7 equipped.
I don't know which is the card that Sonar should be using but in the drop down Input/Output box (track) the only output options listed are Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth, New Drum Map and Drum Map Manager. None of the installed names are displayed.
This has prevented me from mixing down Midi tracks to Audio.
Thanks in advance, Al.
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57Gregy
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Re:Windows7 soundcard recognition
2011/05/24 00:16:33
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What is listed in SHS 7 Options>Audio under Playback and Recording devices?
What drivers are highlighted (selected) under the Drivers tab?
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tracker0945
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Re:Windows7 soundcard recognition
2011/05/24 03:00:25
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Playback - Speakers (Conexant Smart Audio HD)
Recording - Microphone (Conexant Smart Audio HD )
Drivers - Speakers (Conexant Smart Audio HD )
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57Gregy
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Re:Windows7 soundcard recognition
2011/05/24 10:37:05
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Being a new computer, is it a 64-bit OS? I think SHS 7 is not 64-bit compatible.
Have you installed all the updates/patches for SHS 7?
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daveny5
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Re:Windows7 soundcard recognition
2011/05/24 17:12:46
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64-bit Windows requires a 64-bit driver for the soundcard. If the laptop came with a 64-bit OS, the soundcard should have the 64-bit driver installed.
Dave Computer: Intel i7, ASROCK H170M, 16GB/5TB+, Windows 10 Pro 64-bit, Sonar Platinum, TASCAM US-16x08, Cakewalk UM-3G MIDI I/F Instruments: SL-880 Keyboard controller, Korg 05R/W, Korg N1R, KORG Wavestation EX Axes: Fender Stratocaster, Line6 Variax 300, Ovation Acoustic, Takamine Nylon Acoustic, Behringer GX212 amp, Shure SM-58 mic, Rode NT1 condenser mic. Outboard: Mackie 1402-VLZ mixer, TC Helicon VoiceLive 2, Digitech Vocalist WS EX, PODXTLive, various stompboxes and stuff. Controllers: Korg nanoKONTROL, Wacom Bamboo Touchpad
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tracker0945
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Re:Windows7 soundcard recognition
2011/05/24 18:54:20
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Thanks for the input.
I installed as the 32 Bit option (you could choose either 64 or 32) but no, I have not installed all updates on this computer. I will attend to that immediately.
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tracker0945
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Re:Windows7 soundcard recognition
2011/05/24 20:10:51
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Have now installed update 7.0.1 version1.05 11/5/2009
No change to sound card availability.
Oh woe is me.
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Beagle
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Re:Windows7 soundcard recognition
2011/05/24 21:34:44
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change to MME driver mode
OPTIONS>AUDIO>DRIVER MODE = MME
let the wave profiler run
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tracker0945
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Re:Windows7 soundcard recognition
2011/05/24 22:58:33
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Thanks Beagle, just checked, it was already set to MME(32-bit)
The other options are WDM/KS, WASAPI & ASIO but I have absolutely no idea of what any of that means.
Unfortunately, I am a computer user not at all technical.
Cheers Al.
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daveny5
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Re:Windows7 soundcard recognition
2011/05/24 23:26:04
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You only have one soundcard on the laptop unless you've added an external audio interface which it doesn't sound like you've done. It looks like the Conexant is the soundcard. I don't know what the NVidia is. Was that installed on the laptop when you bought it or did you add that yourself? If you added it, you should uninstall it.
Using the built-in soundcard is not recommended and will not give you very good results. Get an external audio interface for your laptop and you'll get better results.
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tracker0945
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Re:Windows7 soundcard recognition
2011/05/24 23:52:20
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Understood about the quality Dave but the SHS7 should recognize what I already have.
All of the sound devices mentioned were factory fitted. They show in Win.7 under Sound, video and game controllers.
I agree that the Conexant is probably the card in question.
Could the fact that the card is prefixed with Microphone and Speakers with the card name bracketed under the SHS Options>Audio be a problem?
Could it be that a - speaker use only - option is hiding somewhere?
Cheers Al.
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Re:Windows7 soundcard recognition
2011/05/25 00:20:30
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Wait, those (Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth, New Drum Map and Drum Map Manager) are outputs for MIDI tracks. What outputs are listed for audio tracks?
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tracker0945
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Re:Windows7 soundcard recognition
2011/05/25 01:46:53
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Correct Greg, it is midi tracks I am working with. I want to mix them down to audio.
Audio tracks are fine but when I try to mix the whole number to .Wav, I get the audio tracks but not the Midi tracks and I believe that is because I cannot locate my sound card in the Outputs drop down box.
Sorry if I had not made my problem clear.
Cheers Al.
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tracker0945
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Re:Windows7 soundcard recognition
2011/05/25 01:50:00
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Audio Output is - Speakers (Conexant Smart Audio HD)
Cheers Al.
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Beagle
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Re:Windows7 soundcard recognition
2011/05/25 09:31:47
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try downloading ASIO4ALL and installing it, then change to ASIO driver mode.
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daveny5
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Re:Windows7 soundcard recognition
2011/05/25 10:12:25
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tracker0945
Correct Greg, it is midi tracks I am working with. I want to mix them down to audio.
Audio tracks are fine but when I try to mix the whole number to .Wav, I get the audio tracks but not the Midi tracks and I believe that is because I cannot locate my sound card in the Outputs drop down box.
Sorry if I had not made my problem clear.
Cheers Al.
MIDI tracks do not contain sound, just computer instructions, so unless you have each MIDI track assigned to a softsynth or to an external real synth, you won't get any sound from it. To use a softsynth, insert a softsynth (TTS-1 for example) in the synthrack, the go to the MIDI track and assign the TTS-1 as the output. Repeat for each MIDI track. In the case of the TTS-1, you can select a different sound bank and patch for each track. With other softsynths that are not multitimbral, you have to load a new instance of the softsynth for each different sound you want to record.
post edited by daveny5 - 2011/05/25 10:15:37
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Re:Windows7 soundcard recognition
2011/05/25 15:05:32
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Right. You won't have an audio output for a MIDI track. Using soft synths, you set the MIDI track's output to the soft synth, and the soft synth's output will be audio that can be bounced or exported.
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Re:Windows7 soundcard recognition
2011/05/25 19:31:54
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Ah yes.
This is what happens when you have just a little bit of knowledge (or so you think) So it was the Soft Synth that I had lost, not the Sound Card.
Thank you all very much for your patience, I believe the problem is now solved.
Cheers Al.
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Re:Windows7 soundcard recognition
2011/05/25 21:29:58
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yes, ignore my advice about asio4all - I missed the part about MIDI - dave and greg are spot on.
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Re:Windows7 soundcard recognition
2011/05/25 23:06:12
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T'was a lucky guess. 
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