PeterMc
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Heads-up on two clip fade bugs
Here's a heads-up on two clip fade bugs that might bite you:
1. Applying a fade-out to any clip will also apply the fade-out to a later clip in the same track that has been moved by dragging. This only applies to the most recently moved clip. Same applies to fade-ins - they affect the most recently moved clip earlier in time. The additional fade is real, and applies to the whole length of the clip.
2. Clip fade-ins applied to a project with tempo changes will appear to restart at every tempo event. This is a visual problem only.
Both bugs have been reported. The second one has been acknowledged by Cake as being reproducible and unintended. Only just reported the first, so no feedback yet.
Cheers, Peter.
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Re:Heads-up on two clip fade bugs
2011/05/24 21:27:22
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Peter, are you positive that the second clip which is unintentionally having the fade applied isn't still selected? I've seen many posts prior to X1 with people have the same problem when they've accidentally kept another clip selected - it's easily done.
Randy B.
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KPerry
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Re:Heads-up on two clip fade bugs
2011/05/25 04:04:11
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Or in the first case it might be a linked clip?
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PeterMc
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Re:Heads-up on two clip fade bugs
2011/05/25 08:33:57
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Hi Randy
Good point. It turns out that after moving the second clip, it is selected. However, it's still a bug I think. I can't see why fading one clip should apply a fade to another clip that is a different length fade (and in fact extends for the whole clip). Having experimented a bit more, this issue is quite complex. Unselecting all clips prevents the behavior. Selecting both clips makes it re-appear. Moving the second clip so it is selected but the first isn't makes it happen too. If you have a minute or two, give it a try and see what happens.
Cheers, Peter.
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PeterMc
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Re:Heads-up on two clip fade bugs
2011/05/25 08:34:40
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KPerry
Or in the first case it might be a linked clip?
Good thought, but no, they're not linked. Cheers, Peter.
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Re:Heads-up on two clip fade bugs
2011/05/25 10:14:01
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PeterMc
Hi Randy
Good point. It turns out that after moving the second clip, it is selected. However, it's still a bug I think. I can't see why fading one clip should apply a fade to another clip that is a different length fade (and in fact extends for the whole clip). Having experimented a bit more, this issue is quite complex. Unselecting all clips prevents the behavior. Selecting both clips makes it re-appear. Moving the second clip so it is selected but the first isn't makes it happen too. If you have a minute or two, give it a try and see what happens.
Cheers, Peter.
Hi, Peter - You've described exactly what happens, I recognize what you're talking about. And it's not new in X1. The exact same thing happens in 8.5 and probably previous to that. The other clip which you didn't want a fade on will have this gigantic fade that extends the entire length of the clip. I don't even need to go experiment, because you've described it perfectly. I don't think it's a bug. I think it's just tricky to always have only one clip selected. Maybe the programming is a bit clumsy, but it's been around for quite awhile now. I do know that I haven't had that particular problem for some time now, I'm so hyper-alert to having only one clip selected when I move clips or use the auto-fade. Randy B.
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PeterMc
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Re:Heads-up on two clip fade bugs
2011/05/25 17:29:51
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Thanks Randy. I hadn't struck this behavior (I want to call it a bug) before, but yes it happens in 8.5.3 too. I thought it might have been related to the other bug I mentioned, but probably not. I shall be very aware of this in the future.
Cheers, Peter.
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Re:Heads-up on two clip fade bugs
2011/05/26 04:58:05
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Hi, Peter - You've described exactly what happens, I recognize what you're talking about. And it's not new in X1. The exact same thing happens in 8.5 and probably previous to that. The other clip which you didn't want a fade on will have this gigantic fade that extends the entire length of the clip. I don't even need to go experiment, because you've described it perfectly. I don't think it's a bug. I think it's just tricky to always have only one clip selected.
I was just about to say the same thing. I've had this for a few years now, with different versions of SONAR. I think it *is* a bug - but it seems to be a permanent fixture - so I just work around it ;-)
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