fireberd
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Matching Recorded Track Levels
Before we start, I know I should know this but don't and the Sonar help "doesn't help". If I record a track and then at some later point go back and fix a spot, for example, and the fixed is at a different record level is there a way to "match levels"? - make it all the same level. I know I can use automation or select that new recorded section and manually change the level, but it would be nice to have Sonar do it rather than having to do it manually.
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Re:Matching Recorded Track Levels
2011/05/25 13:41:36
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select the area -> edit-> process->gain -> adjust gain to taste.
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Re:Matching Recorded Track Levels
2011/05/25 13:43:41
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Oops, I just realized you didn't want to do that.
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Re:Matching Recorded Track Levels
2011/05/25 14:02:31
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No, SONAR can't really help you with this much, other than giving you the various tools for doing it manually. If it were me, and I didn't want to do it by ear with a volume envelope (which is probably still the easiest and best way), I'd open the track up in a dedicated audio editor, have it calculate the average RMS power in the surrounding audio, do the same for the new part, and then scale the new section up or down by that difference in RMS levels. That should give you a pretty good starting point, unless the new section is so short that the average RMS isn't representative.
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Re:Matching Recorded Track Levels
2011/05/25 14:05:13
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fireberd
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Re:Matching Recorded Track Levels
2011/05/26 08:59:13
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Well, I guess I'll just have to continue with the "manual" level adjustments or export it to an editor as suggested. I have Goldwave (registered copy) and I think it does it.
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Re:Matching Recorded Track Levels
2011/05/26 10:11:04
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always prefer do the gain match before record if you record your material in over one sitting. if you were not able to do that. Automation is your best bet.it's non destructive editing. if automation you think it's too trouble for you. then split the clip in the audio track as close as your target volume and measure the peak of that split clip, let say -6db peak then use normalize to -6db. you will get pretty good peak matching but you can't do this for RMS and if you audio has huge dynamic , then this won't be accurate. also this is destructive editing,
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Re:Matching Recorded Track Levels
2011/05/26 15:56:28
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I usually use clip automation, assuming the volumes are within 6dB of each other and then compress to taste for the rest.
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Re:Matching Recorded Track Levels
2011/05/27 04:43:54
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If I record a track and then at some later point go back and fix a spot, for example, and the fix is at a different record level Here's your problem. You should do your utmost to ensure that any fix you apply is as close to the original recording as possible. Try and get into the habit of making a note of any applicable settings - Mic settings (pad, HPF, polar pattern etc)
- Pre amp settings
- If you're mic'ing up an amp, amp settings and mic position
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fireberd
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Re:Matching Recorded Track Levels
2011/05/27 06:30:16
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I normally do make a log, with settings, for recordings. The key is "normally do". ....
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