What do you use Cubase for in the studio?

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2011/05/27 21:28:22 (permalink)

What do you use Cubase for in the studio?

If I use Cakewalk Sonar Producer 8.0 for sequencing, mixing, and mastering... Reason 4.0 for synths and drum tracks... and East West Symphonic Library for orchestral samples... what could Cubase be used for rewired into Sonar in addition to these programs?? 

What are its best features?  What is it best used for?  Drum samples or synths better than Reason in your opinion? 

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    backwoods
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    Re:What do you use Cubase for in the studio? 2011/05/27 22:13:08 (permalink)
    It's good for recording live bands. There's no need to own it if you already have Sonar.  I can't see that you'd want to rewire it into Sonar unless you like to complicate things just because you can.

    Some people might like the Cubase notation and the fact that it has fuller wavelab integration. 

    Reason is better for midi beats.




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    Re:What do you use Cubase for in the studio? 2011/05/28 13:15:53 (permalink)
    What are its best features? What is it best used for? Drum samples or synths better than Reason in your opinion?

     
    If you have to create click-tracks from audio recorded in free/wild time, Cubase 6 has the ability to analyze a piece of audio... and automatically create a tempo map.  Makes this chore a whole lot less tedious than creating the tempo map manually.
     
    The notation features in Cubase 6 are far more advanced (as was mentioned).
     
    Otherwise, Cubase 6 would largely be a "lateral" purchase.
    You can accomplish most of the same things in Sonar. 
    Each app has stronger/weaker points... but they're both well-endowed host DAW applications.

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    Re:What do you use Cubase for in the studio? 2011/05/28 14:10:40 (permalink)
    Instead of buying Cubase just for that benefit (which IS a good one), are there any plugins out there that could add that ability?  Up to now, I've only done the analyzing and tempo map creation manually, and it definitely IS a tedious chore!

     
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    Re:What do you use Cubase for in the studio? 2011/05/28 14:23:21 (permalink)
    Instead of buying Cubase just for that benefit (which IS a good one), are there any plugins out there that could add that ability? Up to now, I've only done the analyzing and tempo map creation manually, and it definitely IS a tedious chore!

     
    No plugin currently provides this capability.
    I don't believe the VST spec would allow this type of function (to alter the host's tempo map).
    If you have to do this often, it's worth the $500.  The time savings is substantial.

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    Re:What do you use Cubase for in the studio? 2011/05/28 20:48:41 (permalink)
    I am using more than one DAW these days and Presonus Studio One is my other DAW of choice. Although this post refers to Cubase I see the use of a second DAW in the same context.

    For me it is about the gapless audio engine which Sonar does not have. And while that will not impede most people in doing their work, it does get in the way sometimes and in certain situations. Another DAW that happens to do a certain function well (that Sonar cannot do) is very good to use.

    The situation I am referring is setting up say a bunch of tracks either with external midi synths or virtual instruments etc. And now I like to loop over a section of music eg 8 bars or so. What I like doing is being able to put tracks in and out of record while looping without any glitching etc. But more importantly if a track is in record, I want to be able to switch tracks with one key press (eg up/down arrows) and get onto another track. What I have recorded previously should remain behind on that track and when you jump over to a new track you should be recording and playing the new sound etc...Sonar cannot do this plain and simple yet Studio One handles it with great ease and I assume Cubase would too. For me it is a revelation in terms of building up music quickly and all live and without any loss of audio or rhythm etc..One button press will take me out of record too and back into play and I can still jump tracks and practice parts and then with one button push go back into record. etc and all without any loss of audio or music timing.

    This is a basic function as far as I am concerned and it needs to be implimented in any well designed sequencing package. Its already in some! If you have to stop anywhere along the line in order to do this, it is zero out of ten as far as workflow is concerned. (for this particular approach that is of course!)
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    Re:What do you use Cubase for in the studio? 2011/05/28 21:01:21 (permalink)
    I'm always worried about my monitors when using Sonar. I seem to get occasional pops and glitches that can't be doing the speakers any good. This has happened with various editions of Sonar running on a variety of computers. Not good enough.

    Cubase doesn't have this problem. Neither does Ableton. Those are the only other audio recorders I have experience with.

    I'm not a person who loops stuff because I record people without clicktrack (loops wouldn't sync) but I recall Undertow saying the Matrix couldn't play in sync properly because of some audio engine flaw. 

    To me, having this problem solved would be better than any new VST or GUI.
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    Re:What do you use Cubase for in the studio? 2011/05/28 21:08:15 (permalink)
    The only thing that bugs me about Cubase is Steinberg. Arrogant b@stards ruined a damn good forum and replaced it with a snob palace. Had some good times on the old forum and knew everyone and now it's a crap hole. The community was pretty much obliterated and you now have to own/buy/register to post in the majority of sub forums. For example:you can't post and ask questions on the C6 forum unless you've already got and registered C6. Not very friendly to new comers... I still don't understand their reasoning and never will. Just a bullheaded, stubborn corporate entity.

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    Re:What do you use Cubase for in the studio? 2011/05/28 21:36:44 (permalink)
    I don't think I've ever used a second DAW per-se, but I'm always bouncing back and forth between SONAR and Sound Forge...

     
    Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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    Re:What do you use Cubase for in the studio? 2011/05/28 21:55:02 (permalink)
    I have had cubase in the past... it came on a CD with some other software. I never used it. I loaded it up and opened it to look at it, but removed it. Since it was a DAW.... I saw no real reason to have 2 DAW's to learn .... they both did basically the same thing....and IIRC the Cubase was the LE (demo) free version.   I may still have that disk around here somewhere.

    now, I mostly use MC4 and on occasion I open and run MC5... that's it... that's all.
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    Re:What do you use Cubase for in the studio? 2011/05/30 17:42:05 (permalink)
    I use cubase for the same reason that Jeff explained above.

    Somehow I feel my Presonus Firestudio Project much more stable with cubase when recording and monitoring with fx in the DAW, although it works great in sonar 8.

    Each one has its pros and cons and both are great DAWs.


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    Re:What do you use Cubase for in the studio? 2011/05/30 22:21:22 (permalink)
    It could use a GUI update. Still the same old bland boring look.

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    Re:What do you use Cubase for in the studio? 2011/05/31 04:52:03 (permalink)
    I tried an older version of Cubase once, when the demo was dongle-free, but I didn't like it one bit.

    This was before I bought Sonar and had no preconceptions.

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