anyone using a Focusrite Sapphire 56 with an Octopre mkii?

I`m having problems routing outs with the Liquid Mix Control-my DAW builder is having the same problem-i need to be able to send all 16 outs to a patchbay(Samson)-thanks Beagle!) and onto various mixers for individual playback levels when recording live-have tried all presets and most possible variations-anyone?please?

well there is some confusion , he mentions the Saffire 56 audio interface in the title, but the liquid mix effects box in the post.
I think he may be referring to the MIX CONTROL software mixer app

the saffire has 10 analog outs 2 adats, and SPDIF


@webhill READ THIS

a multiple mic splitter might have been better, at least for part of your set up.

I can try to help, but I don't have the saffire at all, so I don't know anything about its specific routing other than what MM has stated above.  and I doubt he's annoyed by your post but trying to correct you that the saffire doesn't have 16 outs - he's saying the saffire only has 10 analog outs + 2 ADATs and SPDIF.  so going into the patchbay you're only going to get the 10 analog outs from the saffire, not the ADATs or SPDIF.

hang on -what am i beating myself up for-read the question-what was the question(Re:anyone using a Focusrite Sapphire 56 with an Octopre mkii?)
you gold members should know better

NO I dont use both, but you should know that even though the Saffire has ADAT I/Os that the MIX control only routes the SAFFIRES I/Os among themselvesit is a patchbay/mixer,

exactly!  you still only have the analog outs available to connect to the patchbay since the patchbay doesn't have ADAT inputs (and it wouldn't make sense to anyway).

musicman100
there you go webb hill, even though I am a lowly gold member who doesnt know better, my buddy, the Beagle, is platypus and he does know better....[:D]

now i am annoyed-you`re right-Beagle is one of the backbones of this forum,a professional, a gentleman and indispensable.
ps Beagle:am running 2 parallel multicore 16 track setups-one for rehearsal and preproduction with stereo outs to the zoom/iphone/ipad and one for recording through the good mics and focusrites-was trying to marry the two and have found this: http://www.arx.com.au/International/msx48.htm.
costs an arm and a leg but should be ideal-thanks for your help.

musicman100:i did ask a specific question and you appear to have assumed i haven`t got a userguide,or every available tutorial/faq/,don`t have a current ticket with focusrite support,haven`t contacted all studios,(no-one uses this combination as you`re restricted to 44.1 with all 16 inputs-which suits my purpose but is not "industry standard")had the head of music production at the local uni scratch his head and say i should have gone Profools and RME`s,one of the best DAW builders in the country saying the routing is "ridiculously complicated" and am arranging a skype session with one of the bakers when the DAW is delivered and installed.
i found your reply a bit smug-i hate the third person thing ("he states")etc when i`m right here,online-reeks of elitism and would be right at home on gearslutz.
this is not my hobby-i`m trying to make a living here although i do a lot of pro bono work with young bands and just break even and am annoyed that instead of fiddling with my 38th live cd on the trusty Sapphire 6 i`m sucked into defending a legitimate question.
please excuse me for venting my frustration but being able to read a userguide is one thing-trial and error and finding a workaround in the real world is another.
cheers
tony

thanks Beagle:fair call-i`m just frustrated and have had more anectdotal advice than i can poke a stick at.
for rehearsal/preproduction i run 16mics straight into the mackie as i don`t want to fire up the pc and focusrites, using the aux sends to the drumroom mixer(behringer1640plz)-the reason for this is the drummer can fine tune his/her mix according to their personal levels of deafness.i use the stereo outs and sometimes the tape outs on the mackie to record onto any portable device the band chooses-most use their i/phone/ipad or my zoom as to me it`s essential to hear what you`ve rehearsed,especially if you`re writing as you go.
 
For recording i use a separate 16 channel multicore direct to the focusrites then out to the outboard mixers with control room outs to the mixing monitors.
to streamline this i intended to run 16 xlr mics via xlr to 1/4 trs connectors into the patchbay then 16 out to the focusrites and 16 out to the mackie and onwards hence my earlier post regarding loss of signal with a patchbay.
the reason for this is that it appears you can run all 16 outs from the two focusrites when paired but not the two headphone outs on the 56 as well,which sucks for overdubbing.this may or may not be the reality-i won`t know till i get it back and run-my builder can`t help-he just mutters about "****ty drivers!"
without the unit i can only test run the patchbay using a mic and two tapedecks and after trying every available switching mode i can still only get 1 signal in and 1 signal out-read somewhere about only inserting the patch leads halfway?
once again,this is all hypothetical until i get the rig back as i only had it for a day until  it became obvious the old core 2 and XP were just not up to it and am confident i can sort it-eventually-as usual it will probably be a simple oversight or a poorly translated userguide..
once again,pls excuse my frustration and thanks for your help

"and when you say "focusrites" are you talking about the 56 AND the saffire 6?  both connected to the computer via firewire?"

sorry:rushed my reply-"focusriteS" are the 56 and the octopre synced together by adat and internal wordclock(as per the original question) and linked to the pc by firewire.

the Sapphire 6 is just a backup for basic editing and field recording with 2 overheads on the laptop-acer I7 (as i`m solar powered and it takes forever to fireup and warm the studio) and plays no part in the signal chain.
thanks again mr beagle
vaya con dios

WOW I thought for a moment I was upstairs.. itsn't it amazing, i thought you were being condescending to me .

Now that you have supplied additional information, there is more to go on, but your first post was rather confusing and lacking key points.

But beagle has more time to spend with you than I want to at this point. You obviously are far more professional  than I am or ever will be.

Reese, he is all yours.

thanks mate for your obvious effort and patience-
i was concerned about the trs connector degradation hence looking at a splitter.
obviously it would be ideal to run all the outs from the focusrites to the patchbay then on to the outboard mixers using their gains and eq to tidy up the signal
can`t wait to setup using your suggestions-still think i`m missing something simple in the routing software.
thanks again!
cheers

musicman100


WOW I thought for a moment I was upstairs.. itsn't it amazing, i thought you were being condescending to me .

Now that you have supplied additional information, there is more to go on, but your first post was rather confusing and lacking key points.

But beagle has more time to spend with you than I want to at this point. You obviously are far more professional  than I am or ever will be.

Reese, he is all yours.

yes musicman,i am a self taught professional,meaning i derive the majority of my income from my craft,which took 15 long hard years of trial and error to achieve.

your reply to my post was:
@webhill READ THIS
in the old days it was called RTFM and is as condescending then as it is now.

Was your post helpfull?

You list your occupation as "Telcom Manager"-nothing else-my heart is on my sleeve,in my profile and on the radio and internet 

post counts count for nothing in the real world.(unless they are your buddy Reece`s)