Keni
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Another Issue With Layers
This is not new to X1... It's been with us a long time now...
In a nutshell...
Where is control of what gets displayed when Track Layers is turned off...
Does anyone know of a set of rules that can be followed to control what gets placed on top?
I can't....
<sigh>...
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...wicked
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Re:Another Issue With Layers
2011/06/01 18:15:16
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I haven't figured it out either. Granted, I do more arranging than is probably intended for what layers are there for, but still the Z-stack doesn't have any logic I can figure out.
It's not most recent or oldest created or edited, it's not based on the vertical arrangement either. I'd love either to be true...or just be able to assign a Z-value to them arbitrarily.
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Re:Another Issue With Layers
2011/06/01 18:18:40
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Yeah, I've never seen a rhyme or reason. I usually just keep multiple track layers for a pre-comp track. After I splice and dice them I move the appropriate tracks to a "comp" track where I can edit them with ease.
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Keni
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Re:Another Issue With Layers
2011/06/02 10:12:38
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JoshWolfer
Yeah, I've never seen a rhyme or reason. I usually just keep multiple track layers for a pre-comp track. After I splice and dice them I move the appropriate tracks to a "comp" track where I can edit them with ease.
I approach it in a similar manner... but I clone the track, archive and hide the original and delete the muted clips... You'd think that after all this time with layers they would have at least implemented a "move to top/bottom" system as does everything else with layers! <sigh> Keni
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Re:Another Issue With Layers
2011/06/02 10:18:52
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This has been discussed "ad nauseam" on other threads before, and unfortunately, there's no rhyme or reason to layer behavior. Cakewalk is aware of this and is "supposedly" working on it. It really needs serious overhauling.
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Re:Another Issue With Layers
2011/06/02 10:41:32
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I already know that my opinion on this isn't popular, but nevertheless, I'm wondering out loud again about what difference the stacking order in layers makes?-- I wonder that because I can't think of a single instance where the order of layers effected me to even the slightest degree. I have noticed that layers pile up in no particular order, but to me it just doesn't matter. If I need to get a particular layer, I just click to display layers and go to the clip. I don't get what the problem is--in MIDI tracks or Audio. The way it is now works for me.
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Keni
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Re:Another Issue With Layers
2011/06/02 10:45:00
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rbowser
I already know that my opinion on this isn't popular, but nevertheless, I'm wondering out loud again about what difference the stacking order in layers makes?-- I wonder that because I can't think of a single instance where the order of layers effected me to even the slightest degree. I have noticed that layers pile up in no particular order, but to me it just doesn't matter. If I need to get a particular layer, I just click to display layers and go to the clip. I don't get what the problem is--in MIDI tracks or Audio. The way it is now works for me.
Randy B.
My (current) issue about the view of the layers is a simple need... As my screen isn't tall enuf to encompass all the track I often need, having all layers displayed makes the viewing even harder, so once I've edited clips in layers, I prefer to change it to a single layer for easier viewing.... Currently if I do this, muted clips (not being used) are often on top of the active clips.... while it doesn't change the music, it makes for more uncomfortable viewing of data... Keni
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Re:Another Issue With Layers
2011/06/02 12:19:15
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rbowser
I already know that my opinion on this isn't popular, but nevertheless, I'm wondering out loud again about what difference the stacking order in layers makes?
Well the first and most obvious thing is that you can turn layers off and know what clips will be shown as a single layer track. If you've used V-Vocal on a layer, even bounced the clip down, sometimes collapsing the layer will bring the muted original to the top, which can be very confusing when arranging.
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Re:Another Issue With Layers
2011/06/02 12:28:30
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I say scrap layers and give us nested folders. That solves a lot of things at once.
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Keni
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Re:Another Issue With Layers
2011/06/02 15:09:56
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Serenarules
I say scrap layers and give us nested folders. That solves a lot of things at once.
Not quite.... Separate tracks would require separate plugins, unless of course the situation is such that allows you to buss the tracks, but that has other issues all it's own... ...and the redundancy of all those controls would make them too hard to access more than a very few... No, I prefer the layers very much and they work for me just fine tho they are in need of some fixes... but these are bugs more than changes... Keni
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