"Rap" Hard Rock/Rap

Hi All
 
With the risk of loosing all of you, here is something different.  It is a hardrock/rap piece with a touch of funk.  I have been working on it for a while and I still not happy with it and with my rap voice.  Maybe someone could loan me his voice?  Working on this piece for a while I tend to loose objectivity, so please give me some tips and pointers.
 
http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=9841718&q=hi&newref=1
 
Thanks

Okay when I first saw this, I figured it had to read it wrong. Vicente doing rap??!!

Actually this works really well - more like punk rap. I like the vocals the way they are, except maybe add some ad-lib stuff towards the end. You could consider some "breakdown" sections on the arrangement of the instruments - like have a couple of measures with just the beat and choppy palm-mute guitar, for example. Or everything drops out for a bass fill, etc.  But it's off to a great start!

it would help to post the lyrics. An interesting diversion from what you've done before. 

hey vincent - this is not bad!  the vocals are being overpowered by the electric guitar and bass in some places.  you've also got a lot of sibilance in the vox.

good stuff

yea man...this grroves!...you GOT the vox dude!!...good for you! I'd like to hear you pull the vox out a bit more...nice...I really like this tune!!....

rock me brudda!!!!

Huh ? Did I read that right ? These were the first thoughts in my head when I saw this thread. Umm, ep, that's what it says - so being a fan of  both your playing and unlikely combinations I just had to listen immediately.

First off, hats off to you for even attempting it and then I have to put my hat back on and take it off to you again for not only doing it but succeeding. Only listening on laptop, so can't really comment on the mix too much, but overall I'd say that the vocals need to be  further forward - they seem kind of lost in places. In terms of composition, I really like it on the whole but I think it could maybe use a break here and there where most of the instruments drop out and add emphasiss to the vocal line and maybe a repeat of the odd vocal line in the outro.

Other than that, you rock Vicente - very cool !

Vox are overpowered, as mentioned prior, which makes it difficult to hear the words.   Sounds good though.  I agree with Cian that a breakdown would add a nice effect.   A ToneLoc breakdown with a little light funky guitar would be cool.

Regards

All Ok let me adjust the voice up but not too much.  My thinking was that this is a loud piece and the voice needs to be a bit drowed out by the instruments, almost like shouting to get over the top.  So looks like I over did it. 

I think the break down is a great idea.  How come I did not think of it??  Oh well, working on it and it should be coming shortly.

guitartrek For the bass eq, I got this from a book that recommends bosting 10-12K to give it some punch. 

mgh Triple track approach?  How is that done?

Vicente,

This sounded great.  Very nice listen.  Vocals sounded good!  I love the drums and the wah-wah guitar solo. 

Nice to see you step out of the norm and even better when it all comes together and works. From the way the vox sits in the mix to the performace itself this was WORKING. Really enjoyed everything about this piece and the mix sounds great on my end. KUDOS!

Kev

Loved the changes! Guitar is smokin' and you're really smackin that bass around showin it who's boss. Great energy!

Philz I am leaning more to punk.  I would have like something like POD doing funk, but I can't scream.  Thanks for the comments
Dave Glad you like the changes and thanks for the suggestions.

A little out of my 'comfort zone' with this Vicente, but, I love the guitar (reminded me of some 60's, early 70's playing) and bass work!

Well done Vic... I would back off on the lead guitar noodling while you're rapping... love the sound of the bass...  

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