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Mastering an album in X1
When mastering a whole album, I would like to load all songs into one project. Can I set markers in the project that will set CD indexes, so I can burn the master CD from this project?
When playing a CD in my car, the radio shows the title of the currently played song: do I have to set this info up in my mastering project? If so, how?
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Kalle Rantaaho
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Re:Mastering an album in X1
2011/06/03 06:10:04
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SONAR can't create/burn CD-text, AFAIK, so you must use a burning program if you want those. Neither can SONAR set indexes, AFAIK. I hope I'm not all wrong, I've never used SONAR for burning :o/.
post edited by Kalle Rantaaho - 2011/06/03 06:11:24
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Re:Mastering an album in X1
2011/06/03 06:17:20
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Alas no. It's still a lacking feature IMO (although I know from previous debates that some people don't understand why it would be useful). I've had to buy Sony's CD Architect to fill this gap (which in itself brings some new issues, I had to dig out my old sonar disks to get the VST Wrapper working so I can make CDA a useful environment for mastering). I can't see why in this day and age Sonar can't rip a cd directly in to the timeline or why we can't also build TOC and CUE tables right there on the arrange page and burn our projects to a cd or ISO image via the export menu? CD burning was a bullet feature a few releases ago but its implementation is, frankly, even worse than the 'publisher' thingamie. Ardour can burn redbook standard from the timeline, and that's free! Child
post edited by Rothchild - 2011/06/03 06:19:34
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Bristol_Jonesey
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Re:Mastering an album in X1
2011/06/03 07:21:44
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+1 for Sony Architect.
I simply burn one long 16-bit wav in Sonar and then import it into CDA to do everything else.
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Re:Mastering an album in X1
2011/06/03 10:53:48
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good to know you guys like Sony Architect. I've been wondering about a good CD authoring package for the same reasons.
Anyone like any other programs for CD authoring?
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Zuma
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Re:Mastering an album in X1
2011/06/03 11:14:10
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Rothchild
I can't see why in this day and age Sonar can't rip a cd directly in to the timeline or why we can't also build TOC and CUE tables right there on the arrange page and burn our projects to a cd or ISO image via the export menu?
CD burning was a bullet feature a few releases ago but its implementation is, frankly, even worse than the 'publisher' thingamie.
Ardour can burn redbook standard from the timeline, and that's free! Child
I've often wondered this myself. The only answer that made sense to me was it would then be competing with Pyro for disc creation. I have to suspect that to be the underlying cause, but it's just a suspicion. Still, it wouldn't be too hard I would think to integrate the two. I used to swear by Nero but it's been so long since I've used it that I have no idea if they've succeeded in ruining it or not.
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Re:Mastering an album in X1
2011/06/03 12:26:33
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I've used Pyro in the past and Nero as well. I would like to be able to create discs that when put in a CD player comes up with all the song information and cover art. From what I've seen a UPC/EAN code is needed to do this.
Can anyone explain what the differences between using either Pyro or Nero with Sony Architect is?
Also, when I hear "mastering" I don't necessarily think "CD mastering", I think audio mastering. I assume these are two totally different disciplines - is this correct?
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Fearful Symmetry
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Re:Mastering an album in X1
2011/06/03 13:01:22
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This is CD Text you are referring to. It will display CD and track names on players equipped with the feature. The EAN and UPC are bar the codes required by retailers and download sites such as iTunes. CD Architect will embed CD text, EAN/UPC, & ISRC codes. I use CD text mainly to impress clients as an added feature but very few other folk do and, although I have players that will recognise it, my understanding is that it's most commonly available in car stereos. CD text is also useful for ripping your CD masters as the machine does not need to the connected to the internet as it would in order to access one of the on-line data bases. I habitually burn bar codes and CD text into a master but it's not really necessary. But if you are sending CD's to a download wholesaler such as IODA, they can rip the embedded UPC off the disc for you, saving you a little data entry time.
post edited by Fearful Symmetry - 2011/06/03 22:46:49
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BenMMusTech
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Re:Mastering an album in X1
2011/06/03 22:23:56
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You can master an album in Sonar 8.5 and X1 all you need to do is have an assembly program to put the tracks in a sequenced order and then to mark the P&Q. Audio Creator does this, not brilliantly it has a few bugs but it does the job.
Don't forget that each song should be mastered on it's merits, if it's an acoustic sort of song blah, blah, blah or if it's a rock song. Each song can be mastered individually in Sonar and should be done this way then as I say you will have different RMS levels for each of the genres. Acoustic songs no drums should average -18db to -15 db with peaks at -9db at the most. A rock song should average -12db with peaks at -9db.
You then assemble your tracks in Audio Creator or Cd Architect. This is the art of mastering, lets say you are a rock band and you have 10 hard rock tracks and a couple of ballads. Each of the hard tracks would be slightly louder than the acoustic tracks. it's up to you the mastering engineer how to position each track so that the tracks flow and the listener doesn't have to keep turning his volume up or down.
I think the question should be why has Cakewalk not created a pro version of Audio Creator?
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