spindlebox
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Speaker Selecter Gear (A/B)
I just purchased this Monster Cable® Multi-Speaker Selector SS-4 http://www.monstercable.c...ctdisplay.asp?pin=1423 I was wondering if anyone has used this one? Also, I'm planning on using a TRS cable, modded on the "selecter end" with Gold Angled Pins. The TRS side will go from my AI output (1 each for L & R), and the Pin side into the SS-4. I'm going with Monster because their build quality is excellent. I also got this one for $35 with shipping! Here's the manual: http://www.monstercable.c...tor_4_and_6_Manual.pdf
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SvenArne
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Re:Speaker Selecter Gear (A/B)
2011/06/09 05:34:56
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Hi Spindle! Don't mean to insult your intelligence or anything, but I don't think you bought the right kind of device here! The monster looks like a switcher for connecting a stereo amp to multiple pairs of passive speakers (speaker level signal), while what you need (if I understand your requirements) is a switcher for line level signals. I'm not saying it won't work at all (maybe someone more electronics savvy can chime in), but connecting an audio interface to multiple active speakers isn't the intended use for this gadget. This is more in line with what you need. There's also active devices like the Mackie Big Knob, but that might be overkill for your needs. Sven
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spindlebox
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Re:Speaker Selecter Gear (A/B)
2011/06/09 09:00:01
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Hey Sven, Why won't it work? I'm just using the outs of the AI into this device and then routing to speakers. Isn't that what it's for? Monitoring is monitoring. EDIT: what I mean by "Monitoring is monitoring" (before I get flamed) is, I'm just looking to listen to 2 different speakers at independent times. Mostly, I'll have it on the #1 set (my main monitors), and the #2's are cheap desktop speakers. I don't need "line level" connections. The device you've posted does that in the switching mode (1 & 2 buttons), but a LOT of other things too, that I don't need. Volume control I can do with my main volume switch so I'm not worried about that. The only thing I'm concerned about is the connections; but I believe some quickie mods of 1/4" patch cables will do the trick.
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SvenArne
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Re:Speaker Selecter Gear (A/B)
2011/06/09 10:13:26
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Sorry for coming off as a besserwisser when I'm really just a lesserwisser. As I said, I'm not 100% it won't work, since speaker wire WILL pass a line signal and vice versa, but I know next to nothing about cables and ohms and current etc. Hopefully, someone more knowledgable will drop by.
The thing is, neither your monitors nor your PC-speakers are "speakers" in the hifi sense, but rather amplifiers with speakers on them. The Monster box is designed to relay a high-powered (up to 150W as stated) speaker signal from a hifi stereo amplifier to passive hifi speakers, not a line signal between two components.
Sven
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spindlebox
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Re:Speaker Selecter Gear (A/B)
2011/06/09 10:59:19
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Sven,
No, I appreciate the input. Hmmmm, I'm not totally 100% sure it will work either, so I'm going to try and cancel my order for the moment until I find out. It may be too late, but at the very least I can try it and return it.
The unit you recommended certainly is SEXIER!!! Too bad it may be out of my budget at the moment.
Thanks for your input, and I'm still interested in more input!
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Re:Speaker Selecter Gear (A/B)
2011/06/09 11:43:26
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No it will work. There is a BIG difference between speaker wires which are not shielded and audio cables which are. Audio interfaces output audio which run via shielded cable to an audio amplifier which then outputs to speakers via speaker cables. That device is designed to patch into the speaker cables so one can have a selection. If your speakers are active, then the amplifier is built in negating the need for speaker cables and therefore you cannot patch in at that point. You need one of these instead. http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/LS3/
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Re:Speaker Selecter Gear (A/B)
2011/06/09 13:02:52
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I thought there was an unsoken ban on Monster products on this forum. 
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spindlebox
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Re:Speaker Selecter Gear (A/B)
2011/06/09 14:15:35
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Ahhh, so Cactus, I have Active speakers (JBL LSR 4328P's).
My thoughts were to go out from my Focusrite Sapphire Pro 40's into this unit, and then from this unit to the two sets of speakers I have.
I was going to be using 1/4" patch cables (shielded) from the AI to this unit, and then from this unit to the JBL. The other cheapo speakers are just going to be getting the Angled Pins using existing wire.
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Cactus Music
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Re:Speaker Selecter Gear (A/B)
2011/06/09 20:39:39
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I thought there was an unsoken ban on Monster products on this forum. Well, yes, you do get soked when you purchase monster cables... They are just cables with a name that will put fear into children if left under a bed at night or in a closet which is a good place for them. who I'm I to tell OP he's being soked. Back to the connection issue. You say something that needs clarification. You mention using this box to split the signal to a set of active speakers using shielded cable and then to a set of passive speakers using speaker wire??? One would hope not.
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spindlebox
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Re:Speaker Selecter Gear (A/B)
2011/06/09 22:55:50
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Cactus Music
Back to the connection issue. You say something that needs clarification. You mention using this box to split the signal to a set of active speakers using shielded cable and then to a set of passive speakers using speaker wire??? One would hope not.
Yes, that is the plan. The manual states this: Monster’s Multi-Speaker Selector also provides invaluable protection for your amplifier. Most amplifiers aren’t designed
to power multiple speaker pairs. If they are used for this purpose, impedance (ohms) may drop to a dangerously low level, potentially damaging or overloading your amp. Your Monster Multi-Speaker Selector is specially designed for use
with high power amplifiers and features high current, low-loss Amplifier Protection circuitry. Monster’s Amplifier Protection circuitry delivers the stable impedance your amplifier needs to power multiple speaker pairs safely and effectively. and also this: With Monster's advanced Amplifier Protection circuitry, you'll have the comfort of knowing your amplifier is delivering maximum power and performance. When engaged, this impedance matched circuitry maximizes high power amplifier performance and allows you to safely use up to four speaker pairs simultaneously without overloading or damaging your amplifier. The Monster Cable Speaker Selector features high quality materials for maximum reliability and durability, Non - inductive 50 watt resistors with aluminum finned heat sinks are specially designed to deliver peak power from even mega-powerful amplifiers - up to 150 watts per channel . These precision - crafted resistors improve frequency response, so you'll enjoy fuller, more three dimensional music reproduction. And, all the connections to the circuit board are completely wired with high performance Monster Cable for the best possible sound.
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Re:Speaker Selecter Gear (A/B)
2011/06/10 01:53:56
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There's nothing wrong with using Monster Cable products as long as you use them in an oxygen-free environment. Back on topic, I have a Soundtech TS-6 that I tried to sell for a while: http://www.nwdreamer.com/Pics/For-Sale/Soundtech-TS6/ It takes speaker-level and sends it to one of six different pairs of monitors. I originally bought it (cheaply) because I thought I could take the output from my guitar amp and then select which (passive) speakers I wanted to use. This would save me the, almost 2 seconds worth of, hassle it would take to remove the speaker cable from one cab and insert it into another. Once I sold off about 10 cabs the novelty wore off (I've only got two 1x12's and a single 2x12 left). It sounds like a similar device to what you have and should not be used with active speakers since its already expecting speaker-level. (P.S., If anyone's interested in the TS6, send me a PM.)
Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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