simple audio track question (exporting)

And you want to keep all the layers in the same track and only in that track? Well, if you have a wave editor in your tools menu you can edit them that way. I added Adobe Audition to my tools menu for that kind of thing.

You can also create an FX bin in any individual clip for processing. And you can click and drag a clip to a separate audio track (Hold the SHIFT key and it won't change horizontal position) for processing/export and then drag it back to the original track when done. You can also click and drag each layer to its own audio track to separate the layers.

When I use Audition on a Track/clip about 75% of the time when I Save the clip in Audition, Sonar will ask me if I want to update the track/clip in Sonar. Sometimes Sonar does not ask me if I want to update the clip and I have to Save As the clip in Audition and then Import it as a Wave in Sonar.

When you click the editor in TOOLS with your clip selected/highlighted is the editor supposed to open with and load that clip? Mine opens but there's nothing loaded. I use GoldWave

With Wave Lab the audio file will automatically be loaded and ready to edit.
The file will be named " tool copy of Track 6 Guitar"

Okay... I'll expand. I have Sonar 8.5
I have several vocal takes that I've chopped into several dozen clips. (Clips, however, don't replace the source audio so in the Audio folder there's only the original vocal takes. I'm unsure how to save the slip-edited clips I have now in the track.)
Next, I want to take ALL THOSE CLIPS and edit them. Various things, like reversing the clip adding reverb and then reversing the clip again for that long tail intro. Stuff like that.
I'd rather not have to save each clip, open each clip in an editor and save them again, only to have to reopen the clips and replace them all again.

Nice! Thanks for those links!  Bounce to track looks like the same thing as what bvideo suggested: trimming.
I have just tried 3 different editors including Audition and none of them will load/save the clip back into sonar once edited.

How would you do the reverse/reverb/reverse in Sonar?

I used the regedit method as outlined in the Sonar Knowledgebase. No, I've never added anything there before... but the editors all open when I go to Tools and click them... they just don't open the highlighted track.

Digital Aura


so... tell me how you edit audio in Sonar??

How would you do the reverse/reverb/reverse in Sonar?

Well, that's not something I've used in the past but if I did I would probably use the reverse reverb as an introduction to the beginning of a phrase but not through the entire phrase. So, that in mind, here's what I'd do.

I'd bounce just that phrase to another track.

I'd split the clip at a point well before where the reversed reverb will be in front of the phrase (at least a couple of measures), and at a point at least a couple of beats past the end of the phrase.

I'd delete the clips before and after the phrase.

I'd reverse the clip using Process>Audio>Reverse.

I'd hi-light the reversed audio starting at the last beat of the audio and continuing past that at least a couple of measures.

I'd go to Process>Audio Fx and choose a reverb effect.

I'd tweak the settings and use Audition to hear what it will sound like.

I'd click OK to write the effect to the track.

I'd split the clip at a point just past where the reverb effect ends and delete that part with no audio.

I'd Reverse the clip again.

This leaves me with the same audio but with a reverse reverb leading into the first part of the original phrase. This is a very general guideline and I would tweak all the settings so that the reversed reverb sat well in the track and blended seamlessly with the rest of the clip. I might even copy the reversed clip to another track which I could put the effect on and then use an envelope to blend in with the first reversed clip.

I'll check out the AUM effect and thank you Cactus.
Chappel: that's quite the work around, but I suppose that works. Unfortunately, I want to apply it somewhat to each new stanza and working in a dedicated wav editor would be better.

Mine looks the same, except in the MenuText string I was told to enter an & (Ampersand) before Adobe Audition...

don't know why.

Have your tried audacity?
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/

I'm just downloading it and will install and let you know if it shows in tools menu. I've never had to do anything weird, Wave lab just shows there. So stay tuned I'll be back in a bit.

 Adobe Audition is a $399 program and I see there some free downloads but not sure how that pans out, I tend to avoid those sites that offer "free" downloads. In the end they get a bunch of info from you and you never get the goods.

I love Wave Lab and have been with them for a long time. I've spent more time on that software than anything else on a PC.
I record all my stereo live stuff. Edit and everything in Sonar goes through it twice. It's not cheap @ $499,  but for me it's been the best investment yet.
There is a free trial but you will have to have an account with them first. So if you own a copy of Cubase you can try it for free.
http://www.steinberg.net/...b_7_trial_version.html