Ingvarius
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What sample and bitrate do you use in your daily work
I myself want to use 88200 / 24 bit in Sonar, and this works just fine, as long as I do not use the browser for YouTube, Windows media player etc. However, to make everything work flawlessly, I have to set up my entire system for 44100 / 16 bit.
I use a MOTU 828 mk 3 external "sound card".
This means several conflicts and irritations, because having worked in Sonar with 88200, I cannot listen to anything in the Internet browser, without going through some steps resetting the default system etc. I also use Sony Sound Forge, and the same conflicts apply here too, even if Sound Forge is rather good at adjusting to the media I load in it.
I wish there was a way I could setup Sonar permanently for 88 200 / 24 and at the same time run Windows MP, listen top YouTube etc. etc. Yes, I wish there as no 44100 / 16 in the world at all. What do you do, how is your setup?
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Re:What sample and bitrate do you use in your daily work
2011/06/23 06:47:35
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Well, the first thing I do is not using my DAW machine for anything on the internet. Not preaching...just saying....most folks will tell you that's the best scenario.
But that doesn't change the fact that sometimes MOTU stuff doesn't want to change sample rates back and forth automatically.
When I'm finishing projects and dithering down to 44.1 after mastering, I often have to manually switch the sampling rate from one setting to another when I'm listening to the 44.1 final master....then I might have to switch it back when I go back to recording or mixing.
For recording and mixing, I use 96/24....because my MOTU 24io unquestionably sounds best at that setting.
You just gotta be dilligent in checking the unit to see how it's setup as you change from one prog to another.
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Re:What sample and bitrate do you use in your daily work
2011/06/23 07:00:57
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First, I have 2 internal soundcards and they run to separate inputs on my external amp. I switch inputs when I start or stop SONAR. One soundcard handles all of the computer sounds, the other (Echo MIA) is set for 44.1/24 for SONAR.
Second, when I mix down audio in SONAR I typically create at least two types of wav files. One is the 24- or 32-bit wav, the others may be 44.1/16-bit or high bitrate mp3 files. That way I always have a format to fit my needs.
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Re:What sample and bitrate do you use in your daily work
2011/06/23 09:31:13
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That's why some people advocate NOT disabling their onboard sound. It's good enough for listening to the internet or handling Windows noises without interfering with the professional audio. Examples are like RJN's 1st paragraph, or use a mixer to get both signals through the amp, or use PC speakers for the internet & windows noises.
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Re:What sample and bitrate do you use in your daily work
2011/06/23 10:00:33
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That's why some people advocate NOT disabling their onboard sound. It's good enough for listening to the internet or handling Windows noises without interfering with the professional audio.
That's how I roll. Windows gets the motherboard's sound device and Sonar gets the ASIO device--MOTU 828 mkII. Never a conflict between the two and I can use browsers and media players all I want.
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Re:What sample and bitrate do you use in your daily work
2011/06/23 10:44:13
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Yea, I keep the windows soundcard for all that crap. ASIO for pro work. I've never had a problem w/ it.
For my work here at home it is 44.1/24 bit. Many studios use that, too (or the ones I've worked at). Video/post is 48, since that is the standard. I would stick to that unless your card/combo set up definately sounds better (as Hook has found) or has the latency you need . Even that rule is changing since computers are getting faster, hard drives cheaper and it doesn't put such a strain on the system. But like life, unless you have a reason to do or change something, don't and you won't be surprised.
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Re:What sample and bitrate do you use in your daily work
2011/06/23 11:00:14
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SCorey
That's why some people advocate NOT disabling their onboard sound. It's good enough for listening to the internet or handling Windows noises without interfering with the professional audio.
That's how I roll. Windows gets the motherboard's sound device and Sonar gets the ASIO device--MOTU 828 mkII. Never a conflict between the two and I can use browsers and media players all I want.
Same here. Also saves electric power: the mixer and big monitors are on only when I'm making music, or when I route Windows playback through them for bigger sound than the Logitechs give me (though without 5.1 goodness; I can't afford more than two proper monitors). I work mostly at 44.1/16 or 44.1/24, but when clients need it (for video) I go with 48/24. Never had any complaints.
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Re:What sample and bitrate do you use in your daily work
2011/06/23 12:28:49
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Re:What sample and bitrate do you use in your daily work
2011/06/23 12:33:21
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I have an M-Audio Fast Track Ultra. I used to use 96/24 but I've been having problems with what sounds like tremelo so I switched to 44/24 and that fixed it. It started when I got a new mic that has a much wider frequency range than my old one. I'm thinking my FTU was always this way but I never noticed it with my old mic. I did a test with a tone generator a while back and got similar results.
Even with Sonar set to 96/24 I could listen to Youtube, Winamp, Windows Media Player no problem.
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Re:What sample and bitrate do you use in your daily work
2011/06/23 13:31:30
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I've been at 48/24 for years now, mostly because of the occasional video project.
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Re:What sample and bitrate do you use in your daily work
2011/06/23 18:39:43
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I always run Sonar at 24bit 96kHz in 64bit mode with the double precision mode on. My system can handle it and it sounds fantastic. So why not? There are no valid reasons not to these days.
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Re:What sample and bitrate do you use in your daily work
2011/06/23 21:07:52
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Ingvarius
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Re:What sample and bitrate do you use in your daily work
2011/06/24 04:38:24
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A1MixMan
I always run Sonar at 24bit 96kHz in 64bit mode with the double precision mode on. My system can handle it and it sounds fantastic. So why not? There are no valid reasons not to these days.
My system can handle it too, but I need to listen to online sound too, on the same machine. What do you do regarding this? Well, I am a little surprised that som many work with a sample rate of 44k! And to those who who have both a Motu and the onboard sound card, do you have separate speakers for each? What I want to do is to 1) use the Motu for everything 2) Work in high resoultion like 96/24 3) Play whatever sound I can when starting any playback device, video, music, browser based players etc. All this works fine. except (2), becaus when I use this setting, things start to happen. I wonder if I can make my whle system use this setting? Ingvar
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