Corling

Thanks rbowser! But I beg to differ -- there are many programs that allow you to start untitled projects and that just automatically save backups. Microsoft Word does it, I believe Reaper does it (if we just stick to the audio universe).

Corling


Thanks rbowser! But I beg to differ -- there are many programs that allow you to start untitled projects and that just automatically save backups. Microsoft Word does it, I believe Reaper does it (if we just stick to the audio universe).

In a world with solid-state drives and multicore processors, Sonar can do it just like Microsoft Word does. Just keep the audio in a Temp folder until the project is saved, then copy the audio over at the appropriate time.

That CTRL+N routine sounds nifty enough I guess,--but as timidi pointed out, that doesn't work in 8.5 - it just brings up another start-project pop-up where you type in a name.

That CTRL+N routine sounds nifty enough I guess,--but as timidi pointed out, that doesn't work in 8.5

I guess it's another arcane, hidden keyboard shortcut new to X1. Maybe that should somehow be made more obvious to people who want easy access to opening Sonar without actually being serious about starting a project - but that might call for a toolbar menu item, and the whole thrust with X1 is to hide all of those so users have to search, read manuals, watch tutorials, buy books, learn a lot of shortcuts they didn't have to before and etc--so obviously another button won't be made for that purpose.

you must have super powers

Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk
]

Glennbo

Corling

Thanks rbowser! But I beg to differ -- there are many programs that allow you to start untitled projects and that just automatically save backups. Microsoft Word does it, I believe Reaper does it (if we just stick to the audio universe).

You are correct about planet "R".   That's something that always bugged me with Sonar, because I frequently will fire up the DAW, try some things and at some point say "screw this, I don't like anything I've experimented with" and don't want a saved project of it.  Planet "R" lets you set a path to a folder to be used as temporary storage for un-named un-saved projects, that gets cleared on exit, or if you *do* end up saving, moves the audio and midi data to the new project named folder.

Uhm...too bad that's always bugged you about SONAR because it's simply not the case - and never has been. It works basically the same on Planet "S" as Planet "R". You just hit CTRL+N to start a project without having to define anything. Record, have fun, close SONAR, and it all goes away. Save it to a proper directory and it stays. Simple as that and no need to go to Planet "R" or be bugged at all.

Glennbo

Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk
]

Glennbo

Corling

Thanks rbowser! But I beg to differ -- there are many programs that allow you to start untitled projects and that just automatically save backups. Microsoft Word does it, I believe Reaper does it (if we just stick to the audio universe).

You are correct about planet "R".   That's something that always bugged me with Sonar, because I frequently will fire up the DAW, try some things and at some point say "screw this, I don't like anything I've experimented with" and don't want a saved project of it.  Planet "R" lets you set a path to a folder to be used as temporary storage for un-named un-saved projects, that gets cleared on exit, or if you *do* end up saving, moves the audio and midi data to the new project named folder.

Uhm...too bad that's always bugged you about SONAR because it's simply not the case - and never has been. It works basically the same on Planet "S" as Planet "R". You just hit CTRL+N to start a project without having to define anything. Record, have fun, close SONAR, and it all goes away. Save it to a proper directory and it stays. Simple as that and no need to go to Planet "R" or be bugged at all.

So if I start an un-named project, where does the audio I record get stored?  Then when I decide that the recordings have enough merit to be worth saving and I save it, does the audio get moved to a project folder, so my now official project conforms to my "per folder" self contained way of working, and if so am I required to switch modes back and forth between per project and global audio folder?

Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk
]

Uhm...too bad that's always bugged you about SONAR because it's simply not the case - and never has been. It works basically the same on Planet "S" as Planet "R". You just hit CTRL+N to start a project without having to define anything. Record, have fun, close SONAR, and it all goes away. Save it to a proper directory and it stays. Simple as that and no need to go to Planet "R" or be bugged at all.

Glennbo

Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk
]

Glennbo,

That's basically how it works, yes. When recording to a blank project via Ctrl + N, that audio goes to your Global Audio Folder. And when you save that project for the first time, there's an option in the save window to 'copy audio to project folder', which will then turn that project into a 'per-project audio folder' project, automatically copying said audio with it.

SP

Thanks for the info.  Long ago I tried switching to per project folders with an older version of Sonar and the combination of it appearing to require a project name just to experiment, and a couple other issues with it made me quickly switch back to a global audio folder and never revisit per project folders with Sonar.  

Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk
]

Glennbo

Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk
]

Glennbo,

That's basically how it works, yes. When recording to a blank project via Ctrl + N, that audio goes to your Global Audio Folder. And when you save that project for the first time, there's an option in the save window to 'copy audio to project folder', which will then turn that project into a 'per-project audio folder' project, automatically copying said audio with it.

SP

Thanks for the info.  Long ago I tried switching to per project folders with an older version of Sonar and the combination of it appearing to require a project name just to experiment, and a couple other issues with it made me quickly switch back to a global audio folder and never revisit per project folders with Sonar.  

Per-project folders are the only way to go IMO.,

sykodelic


As a composer, I *never* know what the title of the song will be that early in the game. If I were recording a cover version of some song on the radio it would be another story, but for me a DAW is like a sculptor's tool, and once enough clay has been scraped away, I can see what the heck I'm making. ;)

Just because you name it something in the beginning doesn't mean you can't change it later.  I start alot of projects with the name scratchpad and when I decide on a name for it later I change it.