QuadCore
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Does Microsoft Security Essentials work well?
Hi guys. I put a new virus scanner on my PC and now my X1 is skipping and slow.  I'm thinking of putting Microsoft Security Essentials back on instead because i never had a problem with drop-outs and skipping with it. Does MSE work as well as any other virus software? 
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Re:Does Microsoft Security Essentials work well?
2011/06/27 08:46:21
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I have been using MSE for almost a year now. Absolutely no problems what so ever! I was using the free Norton that came with my internet service. It made my computer so slow on checking and updating. MSE solved that problem completely. I would ask you to consider if you are not using your computer online try disableing the anti-virus just while you use your audio program. Any anti-virus can interfere with playback. Anyone will tell you it is really best to keep your DAW offline if at all possible. I subscribe to that,although, now more and more of your commercial plugins have to be registered online. What I do is to turn on and update MSE first thing. Once I am through with whatever business I have, I disconnect from the modem and turn off the anti-virus. I have noticed after testing here lately that I am able to leave MSE on even while working in X1. It seems to be undetectable in the background. I can't recommend MSE enough!
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Re:Does Microsoft Security Essentials work well?
2011/06/27 08:56:11
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Yeah it is a smaller program to be sure. The best way not to get infected t to have a good program like MSE and use common sense about where you go and what you click on.
I have used MSE and Malware Bytes for over a year and they work fine. I also am very careful about where I go and what I click on. I never open email attachments from senders that I am not expecting something from that I have asked for.
After putting one of the commercial AV suites on my computers (multiple licenses) my girls complained that the computers were running noticeably slower. A year back when I removed the suite and went with MSE, the computers ran so much faster.
Also.... when you are recording..... disconnect the internet (wired & wireless) and manually turn the AV stuff off. The nature of AV is to always be on working in the background. That takes power and cycles from the processor that you need for recording.
My newest DAW doesn't even have AV on it at all. It's not connected to the net.
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Re:Does Microsoft Security Essentials work well?
2011/06/27 10:18:14
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QuadCore
Hi guys. I put a new virus scanner on my PC and now my X1 is skipping and slow.
I'm thinking of putting Microsoft Security Essentials back on instead because i never had a problem with drop-outs and skipping with it. Does MSE work as well as any other virus software?
+1 on MSE I've used the free versions of AVG, Avast, and a few others, but find that MSE is the least intrusive and does the job just as well as the others. One thing I didn't like about AVG were the contant "cookie alert pop-ups" that came up on almost every page I viewed.....just updating my software became quite annoying. MSE runs without any of these issues and doesn't try to get me to upgrade to anyting like AVG always did.
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Jim Roseberry
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Re:Does Microsoft Security Essentials work well?
2011/06/27 12:40:43
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MS Security Essentials works well... If you meet the following conditions, you don't need A/V software: - You're behind a firewall (router)
- You're not sending/receiving Email
- You're not doing general purpose Internet surfing (just going to trusted audio sites for downloads/updates/authorization)
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Glyn Barnes
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Re:Does Microsoft Security Essentials work well?
2011/06/27 13:05:10
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Jim Roseberry
MS Security Essentials works well...
If you meet the following conditions, you don't need A/V software:
- You're behind a firewall (router)
- You're not sending/receiving Email
- You're not doing general purpose Internet surfing (just going to trusted audio sites for downloads/updates/authorization)
I would add one more. You do not use removable media that is not under you control 100% of the time. USB memory sticks in particular are a prolific means of virus propagation. AV or not always have autorun disabled.
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Re:Does Microsoft Security Essentials work well?
2011/06/27 14:03:25
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Glyn Barnes
Jim Roseberry
MS Security Essentials works well...
If you meet the following conditions, you don't need A/V software:
- You're behind a firewall (router)
- You're not sending/receiving Email
- You're not doing general purpose Internet surfing (just going to trusted audio sites for downloads/updates/authorization)
I would add one more. You do not use removable media that is not under you control 100% of the time.
USB memory sticks in particular are a prolific means of virus propagation. AV or not always have autorun disabled.
Indeed! There was a report that I recently saw that said that was the way foreign agents hacked into CentCom! They left USB sticks laying around for unsuspecting military intelligence personnel to pick up and use. And they stupidly did! Now they are prohibited, lol.
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Re:Does Microsoft Security Essentials work well?
2011/06/27 15:40:59
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MSE is a great progam. And free. I had a bad virus last year that my kid must have picked up on some youtube site. Couldn't get rid of it, but the online version of MSE cleaned it up. That is a nice way to go - online, for your music computer. I don't have any protection on my music computer, and feel confident if something bad jumps on when I'm downloading/ authorizing etc. music it would be able to fix it.
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Re:Does Microsoft Security Essentials work well?
2011/06/28 09:08:46
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Glyn Barnes
Jim Roseberry
MS Security Essentials works well...
If you meet the following conditions, you don't need A/V software:
- You're behind a firewall (router)
- You're not sending/receiving Email
- You're not doing general purpose Internet surfing (just going to trusted audio sites for downloads/updates/authorization)
I would add one more. You do not use removable media that is not under you control 100% of the time.
USB memory sticks in particular are a prolific means of virus propagation. AV or not always have autorun disabled.
Agreed. My new DAW fits this description. I have used the NIC to get the license working and that is all. I have also used USB sticks to authorize apps. Any time I need to import an audio file to the DAW via my USB stick I always run a complete AV scan on the stick before I transfer the file. It takes about 5 seconds since the sticks are pretty small by comparison. With regular virus sig updates in MSE, that provides me with a decent level of protection. Even on the other online computers, I don't do general surfing. Specific sites, and watch what I click on and open.
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Brandon Ryan [Roland]
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Re:Does Microsoft Security Essentials work well?
2011/06/29 23:44:15
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I use MSE (works well) and run Malwarebytes Free on occasion. Seems to be a great (and free) combo that is plenty sufficient for a DAW behind a firewall. Not long ago, MSE actually picked up a virus trying to infect my system via an infected USB key drive.. Found it right as the thumb drive was plugged in and then killed that mutha.
post edited by Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk] - 2011/06/29 23:46:17
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Re:Does Microsoft Security Essentials work well?
2011/06/30 10:03:05
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infect my system via an infected USB key drive That's why you should never use those USB drives that you find lying around in the parking lot. 
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Re:Does Microsoft Security Essentials work well?
2011/06/30 10:10:22
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Thumb drives are also the way someone got into Iran's nuclear program and ruined a bunch of their centrifuges. Don't use them if you have a nuclear program going.
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Brandon Ryan [Roland]
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Re:Does Microsoft Security Essentials work well?
2011/06/30 11:14:05
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SCorey
infect my system via an infected USB key drive
That's why you should never use those USB drives that you find lying around in the parking lot.
Well it was just a one-time thing with a USB key in a parking lot. Figured I'd be ok... 
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Re:Does Microsoft Security Essentials work well?
2011/06/30 11:15:12
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Thumb drives are also the way someone got into Iran's nuclear program and ruined a bunch of their centrifuges. Don't use them if you have a nuclear program going.
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Definitely good advice to any nuclear hobbysists working on home systems.
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Re:Does Microsoft Security Essentials work well?
2011/06/30 23:19:22
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Gawd, Norton uses one core and 2g of ram all its own - OINK!
I'm another that uses MSE & Malware Bytes on three different laptops, they run very light and provide good safety.
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Re:Does Microsoft Security Essentials work well?
2011/06/30 23:40:15
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I recommend and only use MSE. It's free and has protected my home network for years.
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