How much does it cost to make a hit song?

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2011/07/01 21:29:45 (permalink)

How much does it cost to make a hit song?


How much does it cost to make a hit song?

http://www.npr.org/blogs/...ost-to-make-a-hit-song


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    Re:How much does it cost to make a hit song? 2011/07/01 21:40:25 (permalink)
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    How much does it cost to make a hit song?

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/...ost-to-make-a-hit-song


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    Re:How much does it cost to make a hit song? 2011/07/02 10:59:36 (permalink)
    That makes for interesting reading but it's not relevant.

    Writing a hit song and making it a hit could cost very little... with all the right connections in place or the stars aligning for you.... or it could cost way more than the story portrays.

    Kinda like raising kids. If you read how expensive it is, what it costs according to the experts to raise a child from birth through college, it will scare the daylights out of you.

    When you have a kid or two, somehow, the majority of people are able to do that task for much less than the so called experts said it would cost.

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    Re:How much does it cost to make a hit song? 2011/07/02 11:16:14 (permalink)
    Not relevant to what?

    It's just a story about one particular song.




    BTW, I found the actual radio package, which is available as a mp3 more entertaining than the written synopsis.



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    Re:How much does it cost to make a hit song? 2011/07/02 16:09:14 (permalink)
    Typical for mass produced stuff.  Sh... sorry product packaged up and pushed out to mass markets.  $1,000,000 to sell it, $78,000 to make it.  Reminds me of Budwiser commercials - great funny spots for a crappy product.  But it makes people money, so who am I to complain. 
     
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    Re:How much does it cost to make a hit song? 2011/07/03 22:34:38 (permalink)
    +1 AT,

    I love this topic!

    Marketting has proven to me to make a "hit record" out of many a turd.

    TV commercials themselves; are they not 'hit records'?

    If I BiaB'd 100 songs / day ... perhaps some could be made 'hit records' with slight changes.

    Any deluded melody can become a 'hit record' ... in the eyes ears of the beholder.

    I suppose many-a-person is a 'hit record' to his wife, casino, church, and/or dog.

    But, for me, a 'hit record', is from God alone ... by definition, it must be good (not just beatz in the hood or at the skating rink).

    Of course, I may be wrong ... and producing a hit record may even require a producer of sorts.

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    Re:How much does it cost to make a hit song? 2011/07/04 11:40:52 (permalink)
    Anyone who's even been close to the making or marketing/selling of a "hit record" knows full well there are basically 2 things of major importance:

    1- Someone at the label in a position of power deciding to "go for this one"
    2- Marketing budget allocations (ie, label commitment with a big budget behind it and communicating sugh to the various distribution outlets in advance)

    Of course there has to be public acceptance (radio play response or some form of initial feedback) but without those first 2 things the odds of a record becoming a hit are limited intensely.



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    Re:How much does it cost to make a hit song? 2011/07/05 09:17:38 (permalink)
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    Anyone who's even been close to the making or marketing/selling of a "hit record" knows full well there are basically 2 things of major importance:

    1- Someone at the label in a position of power deciding to "go for this one"
    2- Marketing budget allocations (ie, label commitment with a big budget behind it and communicating sugh to the various distribution outlets in advance)

    Of course there has to be public acceptance (radio play response or some form of initial feedback) but without those first 2 things the odds of a record becoming a hit are limited intensely.


    Bingo.

    Just look...or listen to some of the crap that has graced the top 10 charts over the years to see this is true.

    I would add a possible 3rd..... Artist with big name recognition to "sing" it.

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    Re:How much does it cost to make a hit song? 2011/07/05 09:38:12 (permalink)
    Chas Chandler reportedly reminded Jimi frequently that Mickie Most produced House of the Rising Sun in one take for 10 "Bob". Of course 10 pounds sterling in '64 was a bit more than its current value.
    Off topic I know, but the "business" was still a "business" even then.
    Another example: "This could be made into a monster if we all pull together as a team"
    The more things change...

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    Re:How much does it cost to make a hit song? 2011/07/05 12:19:43 (permalink)
     I have been hit with a record before. Is that the same thing?

      I have a friend who posted a few songs on his reverbnation site.  A label was interested and picked him up. They agreed to advertising and distribution and he footed some of his touring costs. He was advertised all over national TV and had some radio play. Last I heard he was lining up play dates and was running pretty hard to be profitable and spending his own dime for some of the expenses related to rental of the spaces they played in. He really had no prior experience for that type of thing.
      After the initial investment put into the project to date...things were either at a sink or swim place depending on if he could keep things going or not. He has an album out .....from what I can gather he is either making it by the skin of his teeth or sinking but things could change for the better........such is the nature of this type of thing. A company takes a big chance on a person and hope for the best...............now maybe I better read Mikes link. Might have jumped the subject here

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    Re:How much does it cost to make a hit song? 2011/07/05 12:40:18 (permalink)
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     I have been hit with a record before. Is that the same thing?

    I have a friend who posted a few songs on his reverbnation site.  A label was interested and picked him up. They agreed to advertising and distribution and he footed some of his touring costs. He was advertised all over national TV and had some radio play. Last I heard he was lining up play dates and was running pretty hard to be profitable and spending his own dime for some of the expenses related to rental of the spaces they played in. He really had no prior experience for that type of thing.
    After the initial investment put into the project to date...things were either at a sink or swim place depending on if he could keep things going or not. He has an album out .....from what I can gather he is either making it by the skin of his teeth or sinking but things could change for the better........such is the nature of this type of thing. A company takes a big chance on a person and hope for the best...............now maybe I better read Mikes link. Might have jumped the subject here

    I think one of the mistakes many young and/or up and coming artists make is trying to do "everything" on their own - and often without good knowledge of the workings of the industry.

    The more successful artists get themselves a solid manager.  One who knows what he or she is doing and knows the people in the industry.  The right management can make a HUGE difference.   A good music biz lawyer is important too.

    But unless an artist has super powers of some sort, to think they can manage everything on their own is somewhat futile.



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    Re:How much does it cost to make a hit song? 2011/07/05 13:31:25 (permalink)
     I would never attempt to manage anything without help. I know my limitations and they stop where a good manager starts...........not that I would ever need to be concerned about that. I know what I'm good at and that's not it.

      I don't want to say too much about the above situation out of respect for the guy I am talking about. I think he got a pretty good deal overall but it is now up to him to keep the momentum up. If the funds come in then they will go into making the snowball bigger. If the funds don't come in then there needs to be a plan B. I believe that most of the management end is handled by the label. It is a business plain and simple.

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    Re:How much does it cost to make a hit song? 2011/07/05 21:44:31 (permalink)
    One thing your young friend should be aware of is that it is all his money.  The label doesn't use its money, only the artists.  All those great rider's from the 60s/70s slowly dissappeared when the band's realized they were paying for all the m&Ms that got tossed so there would only be red ones in the room.  The label only loans you money.  There was another local hip-hop guy in NYC druing teh 80s that was the wrong kind of legend.  He sold 50,000 units and still owed the label money.  Maybe that is why no one remembers his name.

    It is a business.  Treat it as such.

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