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2011/07/06 11:46:54 (permalink)

Problem with recording the guitar ,please help!!

hi folks,
 im owner of Sonar 8 Producer Edition and I did start working with it two weeks ago .
At the beginn I had same problem  but i could fix it like this :
There had been a regular dropout on my recordings and I coordinated the Bit-and Sampling-Options of my Via HD Audio Deck
(Windows Sound App. for my Soundcard) with the ones of Sonar and everything work fine.
The same Problem now seems to appear from nowhere and there is no possibility for me to solve this problem tried
nearly all changes in the Audio-Options which could be responsible for the spaced short breaks of my recorded Audio
that seems to appear in relationship of the intensity i play,when i play loud there are more dropouts as when i play gentle
but the dropouts are constand there even more when i play louder.
Any ideas ? Spent so much time to solve ......
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Re:Problem with recording the guitar ,please help!! 2011/07/06 12:09:45 (permalink) ☄ Helpful
You said you played around with the audio options....Did you try to increase the record and playback buffer size?
How big is your project and what are your system specs? Once  in a while when your project gets bigger, try consolidating it so it cleans up the junk.
post edited by sharpdion23 - 2011/07/06 12:11:54

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Re:Problem with recording the guitar ,please help!! 2011/07/06 12:43:06 (permalink)
Yes I tried the record and playback buffer size i don't think it's a problem about the settings because i tried nearly all size of buffer samle-rates etc.,maybe  a special combination...?!
System is high end,Win7-32Bit,latest drivers, the sound card is onboard called " VIA VT1708S "  supporting modes up to 192kHz ,24 Bit
 i also tried the whole palette of options outside Sonar which could affect to my recording and made them the same as in Sonar ,
the problem seems to appear while rendering because the amplitude of the short dropouts are not shown while recording,
they appear when i stop the record ,and I only hear them  during the record when i activate the input-echo button while using
the mic input , when i use  the line-in  input i can't hear the dropouts while recording with the activated input-echo -button
,The project size is empty and no junk  anymore-no change
i will upload some screens of my setting but i tried them all in Sonar and the problem still there

 i took a look at the instruction and some videos  and what you can find else and tried
but i did not tried yet to change some parameters in this script files mentioned in the manual
thats stupid there much possibility to do so but i don't think it's necessary becaus it did work!! 

when i record something Sonar will not drop me out of recording mode.You can hear regular" klick-klacks" on
 the recording when it's rendered and all the louder i play all the more klick klacks are there ,you know?
 
post edited by MisterManger - 2011/07/06 13:26:54
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Re:Problem with recording the guitar ,please help!! 2011/07/06 13:35:37 (permalink) ☄ Helpful
The onboard soundchips are never good in DAW work, but sometimes you can manage with them, at least somehow.

Having more dropouts when playing loud makes me wonder if the VIA has some kind of an automatic muting when clipping occurs. Basicly loud sound takes just as much data as  quiet one, so the volume should not have anything to do with dropouts.

The script files have nothing to do with your problem AFAIK, it's most likely a driver issue.

"Latest drivers" doesn't necessarily mean much, because there are seldom good drivers for the onboard chips, because ASIO is the most recommendable, but they don't understand it.

Try all the different driver modes (if available): MME (weakest, usually works with onboard chips), WDM, WASAPI, ASIO and ASIO4ALL (free download, not real ASIO).

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Re:Problem with recording the guitar ,please help!! 2011/07/06 13:48:54 (permalink) ☄ Helpful
Based on your description of the problem it sounds more like you are overloading the track inputs rather than having dropout issues. If this digital noise is occurring on peaks and not quiet passages I would start looking for clipping somewhere in your signal path. Best of luck MisterManger.

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Re:Problem with recording the guitar ,please help!! 2011/07/06 14:27:18 (permalink)
 OK thanks everybody i will try to use this Asio4All ,
My Input Level is adjusted well and this clipping is also there on low noise passages just the rate of the clipping is not so high but is still fatal, the monitoring while record works well the problem appears only on the finished record
,and when i use some other software to record the problem does not exist even when i overload the signal
so im sure it's not a problem with some overload . I will try to make the signal from amp as quiet as i can
with the HD Audio Deck and only use Sonar
  to amplyfie it, maybe a solution thanks,will post then...


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Re:Problem with recording the guitar ,please help!! 2011/07/06 16:17:06 (permalink)
Well everything works fine now!
first programm crashes on every startup after changing the driver,
did backup and deleted all projects, reset to Mainsetting and use the MMe32 Driver,
Good evening and thanx for ya time and help!

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Re:Problem with recording the guitar ,please help!! 2011/07/06 16:22:47 (permalink)
Glad you have it solved!

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