question on using fl studio with Sonar 4 Home Studio XL as either vsti or rewire

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question on using fl studio with Sonar 4 Home Studio XL as either vsti or rewire

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I am trying to do something, and am having some trouble figuring out. I just purchased fl-studio, and want to use it as a plugin in in Sonar, basicly I want to record the output from my flstudio project directly into a audio track in Sonar, I have tried several things but just cannot figure out how to get this accomplished. I tried doing this with fl studio as a vsti, or , and synth
 
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I create a good drum, and bass track in flstudio. ( have patterns set up on the playlist with a start and end marker
) I want the drums output to record into audio track1 then the bass output into audio track 2 in Sonar.
Then in Sonar record my guitar and vocals.. Sounds simple right? but for the life of me I cannot figure out how to get this accomplished. The reason is I love the pattern and loop creation in fl studio, but I really hate the audio recording feature in it I much prefer Sonar for recording guitar and vocals directly. now I know I could export each track from fl studio to a wave file, then import the wave file into an audio track in Sonar but that seems to be a lot more work than directly interfacing the 2 devices. Let me know if you have ever accomplished this.
 
 
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Using Sonar Home Studio 4 XL and fl studio 10 signature package
 
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    rbowser
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    Re:question on using fl studio with Sonar 4 Home Studio XL as either vsti or rewire 2011/07/10 13:38:43 (permalink)
    But Fl-Studio is a program, not a VSTi.  Maybe it can be used as a re-wire app?

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    Re:question on using fl studio with Sonar 4 Home Studio XL as either vsti or rewire 2011/07/10 18:27:36 (permalink)
    Randy FL Studio is a full program but it also creates a pair of  VST's as part of the install that can be used as plugins within other host programs. After testing it I have found it works brilliantly inside Sonar and Studio One.  You just insert it like any other VST except what a VST! To elric5001 I am sure Sonar Home Studio is equipped to handle it. (Hopefully) I only have Sonar 8.5 setup on the same computer as FL Studio. I do have Sonar Home Studio 7 setup on another computer but not with FL Studio though. I had to do a rescan in Sonar 8.5 to find the FL Studio Plugins.

    Interesting that you are into FL Studio. I am as well and I think it is a totally amazing application and a very good one indeed. You do have to approach it differently though.

    Even if you do not want to run FL Studio inside Sonar Home Studio you can still do a lot of work on FL Studio and export the tracks out and import those into Sonar.

    I see that you are running FL Studio 10. Because there is not much to be gained from coming from FL Studio 10 for example into Sonar Home Studio. FL Studio 10 can do everything Sonar Home Studio can and MUCH more so why not stay in FL Studio in order to finish your music off there. Unless you want to do a whole lot of audio recording over your FL Studio sessions.  FL Studio is quite huge and it can do all the linear audio recording as well. It is just not so obvious that is all. But I agree it is amazing for coming up with pattern based ideas. The mixer is interesting too.

    Setup

    Just insert as a soft synth as you normally would. It will appear on its own track/s. The multiple output version will occupy several tracks.

    Just click on the icon and FL studio comes up as would a normal synth. It all seems to work fine. Key commands will take over Sonar not FL Studio so watch out there. You have to navigate the screens from the menus instead. But you can start and stop the step sequencer while inside FL studio. The Playlist is fully operational too. Output just comes through the track/s as normal to your main buss.

    To record it simply create a new stereo audio track. When you click on the inputs you will see your normal inputs present and FL Studio appears on the list. Simply select that and that new track is recording everything/assigned outputs of FL Studio. Sync all seems to work great too. Both metronomes are bang on with each other too meaning sync is very tight. The host program controlls the tempo of course. I have checked this now and if your midi controller is selected on the Sonar FL Studio Synth track that signal will find its way into the FL Studio channels as normal. I might also investigate ways of getting signals from Sonar in and out of the processors inside FL as well. That could be very cool because there are some killers in there and instruments too! This is quite amazing, I must say I have never seen a plugin of this size and complexity run inside another host like that without issues it seems.

    It certainly works with Sonar 8.5 and also I have just tested Studio One and it behaves well inside that too. Thanks elric5001 for bringing this up. I would never have tried it. I hope you can get it going too. Keep us posted.
    post edited by Jeff Evans - 2011/07/11 10:47:49

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    Re:question on using fl studio with Sonar 4 Home Studio XL as either vsti or rewire 2011/07/11 21:34:25 (permalink)
    thanks for your input I already know what you were talking about. I did try to add another audio track  and couldn't get it to record. What happend was it turned the new audio track into a dxi track (dunno why) this is basicly why I asked the question in the first place. This is something I have been tweaking with, quite some time (a few months), normally I can actually figure this type of thing out,....which is why I don't post very often in here to answer your other question I am using the latest version of fl studio 10.1 (signature bundle) I got it on sale when they were doing a special promo... so I get free updates for life (Listen Cakewalk!!!!!) but Ill try it one more time....  Yeah as a plugin it can do some great things cause you can set up a project then run it through the vsti setting in Sonar, great for backing tracks drum and bass especially if you have a decent drum synth..... but its audio recording leave a bit lacking Sonar is just king there, and some Synths work better in Sonar.... so to join the 2 creates a great workstation...

    As I said, I can just import the wave files as audio tracks......
    post edited by elric5001 - 2011/07/11 21:37:23
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