Previously Stereo tracks now only play in one channel

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2011/07/19 08:00:34 (permalink)

Previously Stereo tracks now only play in one channel

Hi,
 
Its been a while since i've sought some help here but this one's got me perplexed!
I have only recently put my studio back together after moving house. (Oh what fun)
I am running a couple of older Motu units (24i and 2408 mk 11) and using Sonar Prod 8.5
I was playing back some previous projects and only seem to get 1 channel. ene tried straight out of the Motu unit and only 1 channel there.
Assume its a setting in sonar as both Motu's doing it. Even reinstalled the motu drivers but no change.
Would appreciate some helpas i'm slowly going mad.
 
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Harry
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    Bristol_Jonesey
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    Re:Previously Stereo tracks now only play in one channel 2011/07/19 08:30:06 (permalink)
    Well, have you checked your monitoring chain end to end, starting by swapping the speakers over? Then the cables?

    Start ruling out what it's NOT and you'll find out you're left with what it IS


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    Re:Previously Stereo tracks now only play in one channel 2011/07/19 08:46:52 (permalink)
    Thanks Bristol_Jonesy.
    I'm connected directly from PCI card to the motu unit and i've tried my headphones (2 sets) directly from the front panel of each of the motu units and theyre both same, 1 channel.
    I usuall run the two main outs from the motu to my desk and then from the desk to the studio monitors.
    i feel that its sonar related. i did have my anti virus changed and updated since i used it in the studio last and that may have upset it but i dont know where to go in Sonar to check.
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    Re:Previously Stereo tracks now only play in one channel 2011/07/19 09:26:13 (permalink)
    do you have your motu set up for windows to use it?  if so, play something in windows media player and see if you get both channels.  if not, it's not hard to set windows up to use it in the control panel.

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    Re:Previously Stereo tracks now only play in one channel 2011/07/20 06:24:29 (permalink)
    Im Stumped !!
    Have uninstalled Motu drivers etc and re installed in accordance with Motu's instructions.
    Sonar however is a different matter and i cant for the life of me work out why its doing this.
    i can play all sound files perfectly through Windows media player etc through my small pc speakers, but when i launch Sonar and play a project back (defaults to the Motu soundcard) i only get one channel.
    Tried different cables, two different Motu units (24i & 2408 mk 2)
    could it be a conflict between Sonar and the virus protection?
    if so is it likely to only manifest itself via the Motu soundcard and not in windows?
    Help,
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    Re:Previously Stereo tracks now only play in one channel 2011/07/20 06:55:05 (permalink)
    Can you see both channels giving you a good signal level on your master bus inside Sonar?

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    Re:Previously Stereo tracks now only play in one channel 2011/07/20 12:50:01 (permalink)
    You confusing yourself by using the on board sound card if that' s what your saying when you used the PC speakers for Media Player.
    Did you do what Bristol advised and swap cables?
    This is the first thing an engineer/ sound tech will do if a side goes down. You start with the speaker leads and work backward through the cables.
    Swapping speaker leads= Not the speakers or cables.
    Swapping inputs to power amp= Not the power amp
    swapping at the output of mixer/interface =not the Cables and now will tell you if there's a dead channel. ( you could start here too!)
    So if swapping the output leads of the interface results in you finding say the right channel is dead:
    Check the front controls are all set the same.
    Check your interface software mixer is set properly
    Control panel sound and audio devices check if that interface is the default.
    Do as Bristol says and see if left and right meters are showing in any playback program.


     
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    Re:Previously Stereo tracks now only play in one channel 2011/07/20 13:02:34 (permalink)

    Anti Virus will have no effect on your audio drivers and software. Might cause dropouts when recording. Run DPCLAT meter to check that out once you get this issue solved.


    post edited by Cactus Music - 2011/07/20 16:21:58

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    Re:Previously Stereo tracks now only play in one channel 2011/07/20 13:08:01 (permalink)

    Wrong card post removed
     

     

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    Re:Previously Stereo tracks now only play in one channel 2011/07/20 13:49:40 (permalink)
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    Im Stumped !!
    Have uninstalled Motu drivers etc and re installed in accordance with Motu's instructions.
    Sonar however is a different matter and i cant for the life of me work out why its doing this.
    i can play all sound files perfectly through Windows media player etc through my small pc speakers, but when i launch Sonar and play a project back (defaults to the Motu soundcard) i only get one channel.
    Tried different cables, two different Motu units (24i & 2408 mk 2)
    could it be a conflict between Sonar and the virus protection?
    if so is it likely to only manifest itself via the Motu soundcard and not in windows?
    Help,

    why don't you start by trying to do what I suggested before you move on to something else so drastic as uninstalling and reinstalling MOTU's drivers?
     
    set up windows to use the first output of the first MOTU unit instead of the onboard soundcard.  if you don't know how to do that, I'll be glad to help you, but you're not going to get anywhere by just doing the same thing you're doing over and over if you don't try the suggestions we're offereing you. 
     
    it's not a conflict with virus protection for one channel to work and not the other.
     
    as cactus music said - you're trying to compare apples and oranges when you're using your onboard soundcard to play windows media files and then trying to use the motu's for sonar.  they are mutually exclusive from each other.  change windows to use the motu (even temporarily) and see if you only get one channel when playing WMP THROUGH THE MOTU.

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    Re:Previously Stereo tracks now only play in one channel 2011/07/20 16:11:19 (permalink)
    Johnny - no, the MOTU 24i and 2408 are both PCI (for MK2) based cards with breakout boxes attached to the PCI card.  the breakout boxes are 1U with several I/O channels on each of them.  and the pic you have shown is for an EMU USB soundcard, not MOTU.
     
    I figured it must have been something like that!
    post edited by Beagle - 2011/07/20 16:37:04

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    Re:Previously Stereo tracks now only play in one channel 2011/07/20 16:23:32 (permalink)
    Whoops... That card is from another thread happening! I deleted the irrelevant material.

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    Re:Previously Stereo tracks now only play in one channel 2011/07/21 07:22:04 (permalink)
    Thanks Bristo and Cactus.
    Yes i understood what you meant and i appreciate your help and advice.
    I have found the culprit, it was a setting in the SMPTE console within the Motu software.
    Strange because that has never been an issue in the past nor have i needed to go there!
    But that's what makes this field so challenging.
    That was the reason it didnt make sense to me. i knew all my cables were fine as i had already eliminated those errors from the signal chain but knew it was originating from either Motu or Sonar.
    Thanks to everyone for their help, if it wasn't for these forums i for one would definitley have no hair left, you've saved me before in the past as well.
    Thanks again to all, now off to create..!
     
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    Re:Previously Stereo tracks now only play in one channel 2011/07/21 11:52:15 (permalink)
    Glad you solved it but now I'm curious as to how SMPTE would effect a channel???

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    Re:Previously Stereo tracks now only play in one channel 2011/07/21 13:05:14 (permalink)
    yeah, good thing he figured it out becase I'm sure none of us would have ever guessed to have him checkthat.

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