A real drum machine emulator?

Check out Audio Damage Tatoo, its freaking awesome

http://www.audiodamage.co.../product.php?pid=AD024

It has some of the most in-depth modulation possibilities I've seen in a drum synth.

I'd suggest checking out D16 Nepheton and Drumazon for excellent 808/909 emulations.  Another excellent drum module that is often overlooked is LinPlug RMV - it's an MPC-style drum module with the ability to load samples or synthesize e-drums on each pad. 

http://d16.pl/

http://www.linplug.com/Instruments/RMV/rmv.htm

there is an 808 / 909 within sonar that you can use.. groove synth and maybe TTS has it.. d16 things are nice, but samples are good.. the goldbaby ones that have been treated. they are also in the additional content in errm SD.. I wrote a think to convert them to use in DP as well. it's either " Dimension Pro Sonar 8.3 revB content update drum maps" and " Session Drummer 2 SONAR 8.3 revB content update drum maps" from http://www.harmoniccycle....13-drum_maps_SONAR.htm

haha very true!


John T

We truly live in a post modern age, when there are such things as real fake drums and fake fake drums :)

The D16 Group machines are good suggestions, IMO. Also, Microtonic: http://soniccharge.com/microtonic

I'd agree the D16 808/909 synths are pretty good.
 
I'd also suggest Waldorf Attack (part of the Waldorf Edition collection CD which can often be picked up very cheaply). Attack is more of a synth that lets you program/create the drum sounds from scratch (if you want to) than a simple 808/909 style one and has much more sound design potential. Like most things Waldorf it's a little buggy, but works well enough and sounds pretty good. For a software synth it's got quite a slam and depth to it.

nevermind i noticed you can end the sequence early (say step 12)... learnin' every day :)

You know, I didn't think of that, but I don't see any WAVE files installed with let's say DRUMAZON... however, they can be in the program built in so you are right.   I just have to be honest... I've used Battery 3 for a while and the drums always sit muddy in my mixes, yet when I use DRUMAZON, the drums sound so clean.  I also feel they sound more like they are coming from a real 909 machine....    are my ears deceiving me?

lfm

adamlewis7609


Session drummer is a wave sampler, the drums arent coming from oscillators.  Thanks guys!!!

So what do you think drumsound is coming from in these drum machines you mention?
It's all envelopes on filter and pitch of a waveform from oscillator(burst or continuous) or recorded sample.

The synths work in the same way being oscillator driver or sample driven and any combination of these.

And samplers as well actually has abilities to treat samples with envelopes of different kind.
(I never used Session Drummer so I don't know what you can tweak or not).

If you can tune pitch of a drum it's definately not only recorded sample player.

adamlewis7609


You know, I didn't think of that, but I don't see any WAVE files installed with let's say DRUMAZON... however, they can be in the program built in so you are right.   I just have to be honest... I've used Battery 3 for a while and the drums always sit muddy in my mixes, yet when I use DRUMAZON, the drums sound so clean.  I also feel they sound more like they are coming from a real 909 machine....    are my ears deceiving me?

lfm

adamlewis7609


Session drummer is a wave sampler, the drums arent coming from oscillators.  Thanks guys!!!

So what do you think drumsound is coming from in these drum machines you mention?
It's all envelopes on filter and pitch of a waveform from oscillator(burst or continuous) or recorded sample.

The synths work in the same way being oscillator driver or sample driven and any combination of these.

And samplers as well actually has abilities to treat samples with envelopes of different kind.
(I never used Session Drummer so I don't know what you can tweak or not).

If you can tune pitch of a drum it's definately not only recorded sample player.

I had a 909(mid 80's-beginning 90's) and just about remember how they sounded. Not close to real drums, but for those looking for syntetic sounds. But you could tune them and filter a bit and how long to die out etc so it was nice at the time. Cymbals quite ok though.

When I sold it price was much to low, because I did not know the cult over this machine. I could have tripled it.

So I was running Cakewalk Pro 3.0 in DOS with a MusicQuest midi card, combined with Tascam PortaStudio. One track used as tapesync for midicard.

Those were the days....what was the topic again?

Check out Forgotten Keys for some old school drum machines, and cool keyboards.
 
Cheap too!
 
http://www.forgottenkeys.co.uk/

There is something coming from Imageline that looks like it could be a drum machine (and more) of some sort. Look at this: http://forum.image-line.com/viewtopic.php?f=100&t=78112
 
btw, to the OP: Imageline's drumaxx does drum synthesis. It's not bad, but not perfect either... But you might want to check it out.
http://www.image-line.com/documents/drumaxx.html