Digi and appogee

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2011/07/27 08:54:50 (permalink)

Digi and appogee

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I have been running Sonar 8.5 Through a Rosetta 200. I have a great river NP-2NV for a pre. It seems that I have now have need for more inputs. I also have a Digi 200 sitting in the closet. How do I use both. (spidif) If I clock the digi from the Rosetta does that mean I would have 6 inputs. 2 from the Rosetta/great river and 4 from the digi 200. If yes, how do I set this up, both from the digi/Rosetta and within sonar. (it seems that I cannot use both converters independently
 
How do i use the inputs. For example. I would like to set up 2 mics for vocal and acoustic guitar. (Great river 2 channel pre into appogee 200 out to the computer Via Fire wire)
I would then like to go direct from the GUitar into the digi so I can have a seperate track for Guitar. Does it go back into the appogee through the fire wire
Any advice would be appreciated.
(I have already loaded the drivers to use the digi with Sonar in XP)

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    Re:Digi and appogee 2011/07/27 12:41:00 (permalink)
    Are you running a PC or a Mac?  I thought Apogee was only doing Mac drivers.  You might also want to include more details about your hardware and software. 

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    Re:Digi and appogee 2011/07/27 12:58:43 (permalink)
    It is PC with XP

    Let me know if more info would help you  with my question
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    Re:Digi and appogee 2011/07/28 00:57:01 (permalink)
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    It is PC with XP

    Let me know if more info would help you  with my question


    I'm not sure I can help you with this one.  I haven't dealt with Apogee or Digi.  If I remember correctly, the ASPI driver usually just interfaces with one type of sound card.  Maybe someone has been able to get two interfaces to work together.  I haven't needed to do that either.

    Good luck. 

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    Re:Digi and appogee 2011/07/28 08:33:32 (permalink)
    Mbroady


    It is PC with XP

    Let me know if more info would help you  with my question


    Might help if I knew what a Digi 200 is. Tried Googling that specific term and came up with nothing that would suggest an audio interface. Tried Googling Digidesign 200 and the closest that came up to an audio interface is an HD200 tdm card. Or do you mean a Digidesign 002 instead?

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    Re:Digi and appogee 2011/07/28 09:11:20 (permalink)
    Yes, I ment digi 002 with appogee rosetta 200. I would like to use the Roestta as my main converter and run the digi 002 as an added input (clocked by the rosetta).

    Thanks for any advice you can give
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    Re:Digi and appogee 2011/07/28 11:00:19 (permalink)
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    Yes, I ment digi 002 with appogee rosetta 200. I would like to use the Roestta as my main converter and run the digi 002 as an added input (clocked by the rosetta).

    Thanks for any advice you can give


    From what I just read in the 002 Getting Started Guide (downloaded from Avid/Digi site via a Google search - don't use the search function on Avid's site) on pages 56 & 57 (and possibly other pages) you can't do what you want to do because you have to have ProTools running to route audio to the spdif outputs on the 002. Specifically page 56 mentions that in relation to effects sends and returns and page 57 is in relation to mirroring the main outputs. Apparently the spdif outs are not hardwired internally in the 002 and also are not held when the unit is powered down; it can vary from project to project in ProTools.

    You might want to look at something like a Focusrite Octopre Mark 2 and connect the digital outs from that to the Rosetta 200. Sell the 002 (if you can) on eBay.

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    Re:Digi and appogee 2011/07/28 11:21:32 (permalink)
    You can install the 002 and run the Rosetta 200 into the 002 via lightpipe.
    That would let you use the 002's A/D for more inputs.
     
    If you're wanting a rock-solid solution outside of ProTools, I'd replace the 002... as it's ASIO driver isn't on par with the likes of RME.

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    Re:Digi and appogee 2011/07/28 17:20:14 (permalink)
    Jim Roseberry


    You can install the 002 and run the Rosetta 200 into the 002 via lightpipe.
    That would let you use the 002's A/D for more inputs.
     
    If you're wanting a rock-solid solution outside of ProTools, I'd replace the 002... as it's ASIO driver isn't on par with the likes of RME.


    Except he wants to do the opposite - run the 002 into the Rosetta. I can see why he wants to use the Rosetta for his A/D - much better than what's in the 002.

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    Re:Digi and appogee 2011/07/28 18:42:12 (permalink)
    Exactly

    I Know i can clock the Digi 002 with the Rosetta but I want to use the Rosetta as the converter and just use the digi as an added input. It looks like I will have to save my money and get another High end converter with more then 2 converters/input/outputs
    It’a shame you can not use 2 individual converters with Sonar. What is with that. It this a tech issue that can be resolved. Then I can get another 2 I/O converter and not have to sell/scrap the Rosetta 200
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    Re:Digi and appogee 2011/07/28 18:59:55 (permalink)
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    Exactly

    I Know i can clock the Digi 002 with the Rosetta but I want to use the Rosetta as the converter and just use the digi as an added input. It looks like I will have to save my money and get another High end converter with more then 2 converters/input/outputs
    It’a shame you can not use 2 individual converters with Sonar. What is with that. It this a tech issue that can be resolved. Then I can get another 2 I/O converter and not have to sell/scrap the Rosetta 200


    You're missing what I said: sell the 002, get a Focusrite Octopre Mk2 and feed it via the optical output of the Octopre into the Rosetta. You cannot use the 002 as extra inputs into the Rosetta without using ProTools as your daw software.

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    Re:Digi and appogee 2011/07/29 13:05:42 (permalink)
    Except he wants to do the opposite - run the 002 into the Rosetta.

     
    OK... I'm a bit confused
    The Rosetta is a two channel unit.
    How would you run the 002 into the Rosetta (for more inputs)... while totally bypassing the A/D on the 002?
    It's a rhetorical question...     The short answer is you can't.
    If you want to use the Rosetta as A/D, it would have to be first in the chain.

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    Re:Digi and appogee 2011/07/29 13:34:52 (permalink)
    Jim Roseberry



    Except he wants to do the opposite - run the 002 into the Rosetta.

     
    OK... I'm a bit confused
    The Rosetta is a two channel unit.
    How would you run the 002 into the Rosetta (for more inputs)... while totally bypassing the A/D on the 002?
    It's a rhetorical question...     The short answer is you can't.
    If you want to use the Rosetta as A/D, it would have to be first in the chain.


    You're not confused, but the op is. He forgets there's a/d conversion in the 002. What he need are more inputs into his Rosetta. He should just get the Octopre and hookup the optical out of the Octopre into the Rosetta and be done with it. Have no idea how that would setup into Sonar though.

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    Re:Digi and appogee 2011/07/29 14:07:57 (permalink)
    He should just get the Octopre and hookup the optical out of the Octopre into the Rosetta and be done with it.

     
    I assume the OP has the Firewire option for the Rosetta.  If so, I believe it's a stereo audio interface (correct me if I'm wrong).  If that's the case, there's no way to add channels (thru the Rosetta).

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