Allen and Heath and Cakewalk

before I open mouth and insert foot - is that you?

So what has he got against ASIO? There may be good reason not to like ASIO but saying its weak isn't saying much. All that matters is will it work.

 
I thought he said "ASIO4ALL"
 
Edit: He he, I see JB's hearing is 4 minutes better than mine

Bub


Uh, the manual says nothing about ASIO4ALL ... am I missing something or his this kid talking out his ass?

"USB Audio Interface

The ZED is equipped with a stereo bi-directional USB 1.1 compliant audio CODEC. It is fully compliant with USB 2 ports and uses standard Windows and MAC Core Audio Drivers. In other words, plug it in and your computer will find it and be able to transfer audio to and from the ZED USB device."

That's why it would have to use something like the freeware ASIO4ALL to provide ASIO functionality.  Otherwise it's just a standard WDM interface on Windows.

Having said that ASIO4ALL is a very well done wrapper for most WDM drivers that don't provide ASIO support.  Also like the man said the desk is also aimed at the 'live' market more than being a studio tool.

For example on some apps, I can get lower latency (64 samples) on proper 64bit WDM drivers using ASIO4ALL than I can using E-MU's still beta crusty old W7 64 bit drivers in native ASIO mode.

Sonar prefers the native E-MU drivers though to be fair even though I can't get the latency as low as that.

At the end of the video he said it comes with ASIO4ALL which I find hard to believe. I checked the manual and their web site and there's no mention of it.

It's only USB 1.1 compliant. Must be older mixer.

alexoosthoek


I owned one of those before I bought the Zed 22FX, sounds nice but doesn't have effects on it.

You can use the USB connection to add any effect you want, but it lost connection every 1/2 hour or so.

that's typical for a lot of USB connected soundcards.  most of the time this can be remedied by changing the USB power options in windows.  set it so that it doesn't go into power saving mode.  there are instructions on the internet for this.

Well, his "review" seemed to be nothing more than "I bought it and used it and I like it...it's a mixer!!"

 "I bought it stole the image and used it and I like it...it's a mixer!!"
 

 

 
(or am I all mixed up?)
 

Bub


At the end of the video he said it comes with ASIO4ALL which I find hard to believe. I checked the manual and their web site and there's no mention of it.

It's only USB 1.1 compliant. Must be older mixer.

Didn't we just do this one?

So it's not mentioned in the manual, did you check the file list on the install CD too?  I imagine it installs the generic Windows 'USB Audio Device' WDM driver, which will run off a USB 1.1 port and would require A4A to run as ASIO

And Beag, with due respect the most succinct review of the reviewer was in my first post too.

Crap reviewer really.

I'm having one of those feeling like 'chopped liver' days.

sorry JB. I stand corrected. have a better day my friend.

Ain't Beagles supposed to eat chopped liver?...

Jonbouy

Bub

At the end of the video he said it comes with ASIO4ALL which I find hard to believe. I checked the manual and their web site and there's no mention of it.

It's only USB 1.1 compliant. Must be older mixer.

Didn't we just do this one?

So it's not mentioned in the manual, did you check the file list on the install CD too?  I imagine it installs the generic Windows 'USB Audio Device' WDM driver, which will run off a USB 1.1 port and would require A4A to run as ASIO

I didn't have to check the install CD, it tells you it only comes with the WDM driver in the manual.

I was interested in this thread because I've been thinking of getting a small USB mixer but changed my mind when I saw they used WDM drivers and didn't want to deal with that, so I went to A4A's web site and saw this ...

"Q: Any hints on using ASIO4ALL with USB devices


A: ... Windows has a built-in generic USB audio driver that works with most devices. Thus, if you want to have honest, no-nonsense, low-latency audio playback/recording with your USB audio interface - by all means: stick with the Windows driver! This is especially true for consumer grade stuff, where you can be assured that the drivers shipped with it are most likely 'consumer grade' as well"

But anyway ...

It's not important.

That's true. I'm just learning how to work with the mixer side of my Fast Track Ultra and I'm getting pretty good at it, but the interface is a pain to work with. Plus it's got a problem of the interface disappearing randomly and you have to go in to your registry and delete a couple of lines before you can pull it back up, even after a reboot. It's been a problem with the FTU from day one and it's a biggie. You would think they would have a fix for it ...

Fortunately regedit remembers the last line you were on so I just pull it up, hit delete and I'm back up and running in a snap.

I'm seriously considering throwing my EMU-0404 back in now that I'm getting more familiar with routing and getting around latency issues. The EMU-0404 has some really nice effects built in to including distortion, so you can monitor with effects while recording dry with 0 latency. The EMU is a nightmare to set up though, but once you get it set you're good to go. :)

@Bub

This one is blinding value to pair up with an 0404.

http://www.google.co.uk/p...g&ved=0CIkBEPICMAU

The card is a cinch to setup in Windows you don't need to change anything from the default patch mix setup.  Just mute the PCI-L and PCI-R channels when they are not being used.

In W7 64 and 64bit Sonar just set the driver to ASIO check the first 4 inputs (as they don't have freindly names in 64 bit version) and the last output. (31/32) and you are away.

The inputs then will correspond to channels that show up on the 32 bit version of Sonar i.e. 1/2) PCI-L, 2 Channel Mono, 3-4) PCI-R, 2 Channel Mono, 5/6) SP/DIF, 7/8) Aux

So you can either use the left and right channels hard panned on patchmix to get a stereo image from the mixer or use them as seperate mono channels.

Aux you can use to direct streaming and windows audio direct into Sonar by using the Send from patchmix which is already set-up as a default.

As the 0404 has limited inputs and outputs there's no benefit at all in messing with the default patch mix session, a mixer is a cool addition for it, and don't forget to use the 'latest' beta driver.  I say latest but the beta is over a year old now.