Review - Cakewalk Sound Center Steinway Grand Piano Expansion Pack by DSF

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2011/08/02 15:32:59 (permalink)

Review - Cakewalk Sound Center Steinway Grand Piano Expansion Pack by DSF

I posted this on the instruments forum but also wanted to share it with the users here in the MC forum because so many of us use Sound Center products.
 
 
 
 
When I first got into recording with Cakewalk products awhile back I realized my old keyboard just didn't have the piano sound I was looking for. There were plenty of good digital piano sounds but no true "acoustic" sound that tickled my ear. Of course, when it comes to acoustic pianos no one beats Steinway, so I was thrilled to see the Steinway Grand Piano expansion pack by Digitial Sound Factory availabe as a download from the Cakewalk Store.
 
The download process was fairly cut and dry and within minutes I was ready to go - except the sounds weren't showing up whenever I opened my Cakewalk Sound Center soft synth. After several rounds of fruitless Marco Polo with my system, I called customer service and they helped me locate it within minutes.  It was simply a matter of moving the .dll file from the default folder assigned during setup to the one under the Program Files (x86)>Cakewalk>vst plugins. Knowing this beforehand, one has the option of installing the download to the proper location using the browse feature during the installation dialogue. Still, it would be nice if Cakewalk could eliminate this step so the product installs correctly without the need to do so.
 
Folder locations aside, the installation process wasn't too difficult on the whole.
 
But no one reads a product review to learn about the installation process. You want to know about the sounds.
 
I was initially a little put off by the product containing only ten sounds. Those sounds are Concert Grand 1, Concert Grand 2, Concert Grand 3, Concert Grand 4, Hard Grand, Honky Tonk 1, Honky Tonk 2, Medium Grand, Parlor Grand, and Soft Grand. Considering some of the other Sound Center expansion packs offer upwards of 100 or more sounds, it seemed a bit costly but I hoped the more compact package meant quality would trump quantity. I'm pleased to say this was the case.
 
I've used the product for a few months now and have found the sounds very realistic and useable, particularly in a crowded mix. Part of this is because the tones were sampled in such a way they avoid the "muddy middle" so prevalent in many "piano" products. All too often digital pianos will have a deep, rich bottom and sparkling highs only to have a midsection that sounds like a walk through a jar of molasses. Many players do the vast majority of their work in the mid-range so it's always been peculiar to me that so many products are lacking in this important area. I find it a joy to actually use the middle range of my keyboard now when using these sounds.
 
A wonderful feature included with just about any of the Sound Center expansions is the editability of the sound palette. You can control the Tone Velocity, Resonance, Low EQ, Mid EQ, High EQ, and FX Amount of each sound. You can also choose to turn off the effects altogether. The range of lavish acoustic piano to a much more brittle sounding attack. For the most part though the samples are brilliant to begin with and as mentioned above - very useful, so I don't find myself tweaking them much.
 
I'm not a big fan of Honky Tonk piano sounds in most keyboards and synths but found Honky Tonk 2 actually to my liking, which makes up for Honky Tonk 1 which sounds more like a duck tangled in piano strings. Overall though, nine of the ten sounds were pretty amazing, especially considering the cost. The product generally sells for 29.99 but is often found in the Cakewalk store on sale for 19.99. It's worth the investment either way if you use alot of piano sounds in your workflow.
 
If you really want and need a "true" acoustic piano sound, I suppose you can shell out enough to make a good down payment on your next home and buy a Steinway. However, if such a purchase may land you in divorce court, I would recommend the Steinway Grand Piano expansion pack as an alternative. It sounds good and won't break the bank. What more could the hobbyist or even working pro ask for?
 
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    Re:Review - Cakewalk Sound Center Steinway Grand Piano Expansion Pack by DSF 2011/08/02 16:36:53 (permalink)
    But no one reads a product review to learn about the installation process. You want to know about the sounds.


    EXACTLY what I was thinking by the time I read that! 

    thanks for the review, David!  I was curious about that expansion pack and wondered how good it was for recommending to people who needed a decent piano sound.

    do you have any other piano libraries that you can compare this one to?  I have Kontakt and the Classic Pianos Library, which is the repackaged Akoustik Pianos.  they are very nice so I don't really NEED the SC Piano expansion, but I really would like to know how well it compares to more expensive libraries.

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    Re:Review - Cakewalk Sound Center Steinway Grand Piano Expansion Pack by DSF 2011/08/02 16:46:44 (permalink)
    No, I sure don't.

    At this point though, the expansion pack fits my needs nicely so I'm not really looking but it would be cool to compare.
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    Re:Review - Cakewalk Sound Center Steinway Grand Piano Expansion Pack by DSF 2011/08/02 23:20:56 (permalink)
    my review of the Steinway pianos...

    I like them a lot. Very nice sounds.... I'm impressed and totally satisfied for the price to sound quality ratio.

    Do they sound like the Ivory Piano?   No... but then again they are 1/10th the cost and for what I paid.... I thought they compared favorably to the Ivory Piano's.
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    Re:Review - Cakewalk Sound Center Steinway Grand Piano Expansion Pack by DSF 2011/08/03 08:52:52 (permalink)
    good info guys!

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    Re:Review - Cakewalk Sound Center Steinway Grand Piano Expansion Pack by DSF 2011/11/03 22:29:59 (permalink)
    Sorry to be late to this post, but I have a question that maybe Beagle can answer. I literally just upgraded from 8.3 on 32 bit XP to X1 on 64 bit Win 7. I still have my NI Akoustik Piano pack and am wondering if it is even worth trying to get it to work on my new platform. I don't have Kontakt or anything. I used to use it as a plug in Sonar 8.3 and it was great.  Thoughts? I'd hate to waste a precious Saturday if it won't work.

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    Re:Review - Cakewalk Sound Center Steinway Grand Piano Expansion Pack by DSF 2011/11/04 07:47:13 (permalink)
    Yeah.... it should work just fine.   

    You may need to set up the DAW and all it's plugs and stuff to run in a 32 bit shell in W7/64... but yeah, it should run just fine. 

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    Re:Review - Cakewalk Sound Center Steinway Grand Piano Expansion Pack by DSF 2011/11/04 09:52:44 (permalink)
    I am pretty certain that the NI Akoustik without kontakt will not work on 64bit. at least not without Kontakt 4.23 which is an update to kontakt for 64bit.

    kontakt 4 took the akoustik pianos and "updated them" and they now call them "Classic Pianos" for Kontakt4, which I do have.

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