Is there a limit on using EQ on channel strips?

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2011/08/03 15:41:39 (permalink)

Is there a limit on using EQ on channel strips?

Forgive me if this has been asked before, I tried searching with no luck.  I'm a bit of a newbie when it comes to Sonar, so I couldn't figure this one out.
 
I'm using X1 Studio, and I am mixing a project where I currently have 13 Audio tracks (all my midi tracks were converted to audio for final mixdown).  I was trying to mix down my drums which I have 7 tracks (kick, snare, tom1, 2,3, overhead 1 and 2).  I was going in to edit the drum tracks, I created one drum bus with sonitus reverb plugin on it, and Aux sends on all 7 channels to it.
 
The problem I'm having, when I use the built in EQ on the channel strips, after using EQ on the  kick snare and overheads, when I try to EQ the toms, it has no effect on or off.  If I use the sonitus EQ plugin on that channel it works fine.
 
Is there a limitation to using the built-in EQ effects on the channel strips?
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    Re:Is there a limit on using EQ on channel strips? 2011/08/03 16:02:30 (permalink)
    when you say channel strips, are you talking about Pro Channel's EQ?

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    Re:Is there a limit on using EQ on channel strips? 2011/08/03 16:27:27 (permalink)
    Beagle


    when you say channel strips, are you talking about Pro Channel's EQ?


    He's using Studio does that even use PC?  I'm assuming the channel strips in console view

    DD

    If there is a limit it will be much greater than a few drum tracks.

    You say you are sending to a drum bus via sends do you have post fader set the same on all tracks?

    Where are you routing the track outputs to post send?
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    Re:Is there a limit on using EQ on channel strips? 2011/08/03 16:33:46 (permalink)
    my bad.

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    Re:Is there a limit on using EQ on channel strips? 2011/08/03 16:48:20 (permalink)
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    Beagle


    when you say channel strips, are you talking about Pro Channel's EQ?


    He's using Studio does that even use PC?  I'm assuming the channel strips in console view

    DD

    If there is a limit it will be much greater than a few drum tracks.

    You say you are sending to a drum bus via sends do you have post fader set the same on all tracks?

    Where are you routing the track outputs to post send?
    yes the post fade is set the same for the drum tracks.  They all rout to the drum bus, which the only plugin I have is for sonitus reverb.
     
    so this is what it sort of looks like:
     
    Kick ->  EQ on -> inserts: compressor -> gate Aux Send: Drum bus
    Snare -> EQ on -> inserts: gate  Aux Send: Drum bus
    Overhead 1 -> EQ on  -> inserts: none  Aux Send: Drum bus
    Overhead 2 -> EQ on - > Inserts: none Aux Send: Drum bus
    Tom 1 -> EQ on (not working) -> Inserts: none  Aux Send: Drum bus
    Tom 2 -> EQ on (not working) -> Inserts: none  Aux Send: Drum bus
    Tom 3 -> EQ on (not working) -> Inserts: none Aux Send: Drum bux
     
    Drum bus - > EQ off  -> Inserts: Reverb  Output - Main Bus
     
    So the EQ's that don't work, if I use sonitus EQ as an insert it works.
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    Re:Is there a limit on using EQ on channel strips? 2011/08/03 17:04:01 (permalink)
    Weird.

    If the Sonitus EQ's working from the bin that kind of rules out the sends being a problem.

    7 Tracks for a drum mix is by no means excessive.

    Sounds like a call to customer support is in order here.



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    Re:Is there a limit on using EQ on channel strips? 2011/08/03 17:18:23 (permalink)
    There is no limit on how many tracks can be Eqed with the built in Eq. There is also no limit on inserting Eq in the FX bin. It is all dependent on your total system. 

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    Re:Is there a limit on using EQ on channel strips? 2011/08/03 17:33:46 (permalink)
    Hey DD,
    Try moving the audio to new tracks and see if that fixes the problem.  I had a project where PC stopped working on a couple tracks and I fixed it by moving the audio to new ones.

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    Re:Is there a limit on using EQ on channel strips? 2011/08/03 18:37:53 (permalink)
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    Hey DD,
    Try moving the audio to new tracks and see if that fixes the problem.  I had a project where PC stopped working on a couple tracks and I fixed it by moving the audio to new ones.

    Dean


    DD if you do this make sure you keep a copy of this project as it stands before you amend it.  It may help to submit it with a bug report to track down any issues or for someone at customer support to check out.

    It's not expected behaviour for the eq just to not work arbitrarily on random tracks.

    That project as it stands may hold the key to fixing a problem that might crop up for others in future.

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    Re:Is there a limit on using EQ on channel strips? 2011/08/03 18:56:32 (permalink)
    Thanks I will try using new tracks.  I will definitely back up the project before hand.

    Thanks for the suggestions everyone!  I'll let you know what happens.
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